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How important is ICM?
GaryLQ
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February 23, 2011 - 4:48 am
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Do the pros factor in ICM considerations when making shove/call/re-shove decisions on money bubbles and at final tables?

In the videos I've watched so far I don't recall hearing any mention of ICM. How important is an understanding of ICM to a tournament player? I'm beginning to get to grips with the maths of ICM but I'm yet to incorporate it into my decision making process.

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February 23, 2011 - 9:57 am
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Most pros intuitively factor in ICM – meaning that they tighten up call ranges while also applying pressure as the aggressor during bubble spots.  However, most don't do any math while at the table.  A few will do calculations away from the table.

 

ICM is a pretty important concept because it's taking into account the tangible value of $$ in your decisions.  

 

Actually this is the next MTT math vid we're doing.  Hagbard and I are working on the content now, and the video should be out in a few weeks.

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February 23, 2011 - 12:47 pm
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Thanks, I look forward to the vid.

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This will be a great video!

"Your either in Sheen's Korner or your with the trolls."

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Awsome, I really look forward to this video as I am making some final tables but only 1 1st, 1 3rd out of 8 final tables.  I naturally tighten up if thers 2+ players with less then 50% of my stack but I am interested on the difference in shoving ranges and the actuall numbers of the math. 

 

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