Tournament Poker Edge | Learn Poker Strategy | Tournament Poker Training from the Pros - Topic: I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/ Simple:Press Version 5.7.5.3 Firestarter on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p53675 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p53675 .....50258C18C2

]]> Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:47:44 -0500 WizardZur on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p51364 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p51364 It depends on what their exploitable tendencies are.  Many LAGs will open 50% of unopened pots in an attempt to steal, but will fold to a 3 bet > 50% of the time.  That is highly exploitable by 3 betting light.  Others will, as noted by g1immeALL will cbet 90% of flops but will shutdown on the turn if they don't improve.  This is exploitable by floating a lot of flops and stealing the pot on the turn.  Other, more maniac LAGs will fire 3 barrells habitually.  This is exploitable by waiting for a moderate strength hand (TPTK+) and just letting him fire 3 barrells into you, call, call, call.  Any style is capable of being exploited, you simply have to find how to exploit your opponent.

 

As far as getting upset, ask yourself why?  Your opponent is simply trying to win, just as you are.  It's nothing personal.  I know this sounds a little soft but whenever I'm playing someone I'm having a hard time with, is frustrating me with his style, or I suspect may be even a little better than me, I try to get to know that person.  You'll find they're probably not an a-hole in rl, they simply have a different style of play, which alleviates some of that antagonism.  You may also learn from him. 

]]> Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:39:40 -0500 Phoebus on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p51361 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p51361 Controlling your ego is something that comes with time, right around the time you become tired of letting it influence.

Ego plays little to no role in any of my decisions poker, life or job

You don't need books to tell to what to do, make a practice of observing your mind like you would go through a HH. Somewhere in the line of if the statements in your brain your willingly giving up control.

]]> Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:56:36 -0500 Ch1pCh0p on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49732 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49732 jjpregler said:

What I see happen an awful lot in live games are young guys at the table betting and betting and betting and the older guys getting frustrated.  Then the older guy finally flops something good and shoves all in on the young guy.  Young guy folds.  Old guy looks all proud that he put the wild guy in his place, not even realizing he blew the hand horribly.  

When you get a value hand, let the LAG bet th hand for you.  Don't let him off the hook.  Let him bluff off as much as you can get before you let him know he's beat.  

Awesome, I love it !

]]> Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:37:09 -0400 jjpregler on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49714 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49714 What I see happen an awful lot in live games are young guys at the table betting and betting and betting and the older guys getting frustrated.  Then the older guy finally flops something good and shoves all in on the young guy.  Young guy folds.  Old guy looks all proud that he put the wild guy in his place, not even realizing he blew the hand horribly.  

When you get a value hand, let the LAG bet th hand for you.  Don't let him off the hook.  Let him bluff off as much as you can get before you let him know he's beat.  

]]> Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:37:51 -0400 acesfull44 on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49699 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49699 The Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler. Buy this ASAP. I feel like this helped my game a ton.

]]> Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:08:45 -0400 PowMT on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49402 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p49402 There is a book someone gave to me a week ago. 

It's called the Power of Now.

It's quite a spiritual book. Nothing about poker. But it has good concepts written about the mindset.

For example that you see your mind not as who you are but as a gathering of all sorts of thoughts, opinions, memories and expectations.

 

You, your real self should look at those thoughts from a step back. As if you were an observer in your mind. Look what's going on, where do the thoughts come from and keep in control.

 

I've only read a small part of the book but it might be an interesting read for you.

]]> Tue, 03 Sep 2013 07:29:16 -0400 Turbulence on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p48630 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p48630 Be patient, you know their style of play so just sit back and wait for your spot(s) against them. Dont try to out aggro an aggro player, they're better at it than you are its their style remember. So, let them nibble and take the small pots, wait until you have it then act passive, they'll bet for you.

]]> Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:04:45 -0400 michae1di11on on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p48626 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p48626 Instead of trying to call down super light with bottom pair, you can get value by turning stronger hands into bluff catchers. Check-calling top pair sort of hands out of position especially will protect your check calling range in future and aggro villain may be less likely to start barreling next time. I see value betting these guys as frustrating as they rarely have a second best hand so it seems they win all the big pots. Bluff catching helps a lot

]]> Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:49:36 -0400 g1mmeALL on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p45947 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p45947 Review hands you've played against villain and try to find out what his betting patterns are, and if you can exploit it postflop. (e.g. a lot of aggro players fire a high cbet% on the flop, but shutdown on the turn when floated and don't have it..)

 

Also try to tighten-up a bit, you will find a spot to get it in ahead.

]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:55:57 -0400 MagicGater on I hate losing control. How to break down the ego vs an aggro player ? https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p45895 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/i-hate-losing-control-how-to-break-down-the-ego-vs-an-aggro-player/#p45895 Any advice on how to break down ego when you have an history vs an aggro player ?

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