Tournament Poker Edge | Learn Poker Strategy | Tournament Poker Training from the Pros - Topic: These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/ Simple:Press Version 5.7.5.3 weeeeee on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47893 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47893 You played the hand but it's unfortunate. The problem with these experiences is that we all need to realize that it will happen a percentage of time. I'd love that every AA hand I have wins but we all know that it isn't hence why there is variance in tournament play poker.

With that said, i believe in the post, someone mentioned break. That is a wise one. Also one thing I am learning is to really concentrate on the breaks during the sessions too. Walk away from the computer, take a walk or pooo or whatever and look at something other than poker so you can get some clarity.

Also, smaller field size would also be good and bring your varience down just a little bit. The biggest thing I have recognized for me is break. Take off and just do something other than poker to get your mind a break. We tend to somewhat auto pilot. Learn a new game, play something different. badugi, baduci, PLO8 or some sort of draw game. It's like when lifting weights, you can do the thing you are comfortable with so long that you can go on autopilot and you don't see any effects. 

]]> Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:55:13 -0400 bennymacca on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47837 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47837 agree with that last one. 

 

i think that whilst it may be true that you have a higher attainable roi the bigger tourneys you play, that also assumes you are playing your A game all the time, which after several near misses in big tourneys, may not be the case anymore. It is a great feeling to final table that small tourney at the end of the night that gets you back to a breakeven day. 

]]> Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:55:44 -0400 elorean on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47832 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47832 1. realize mtt's are sick variance and even full time grinding can result in loosing stretches of months.

2. keep strict to bankroll requirements where you're comfortable putting money up to the table. I grind fulltime and except for sunday MTT's I like to keep a 500 BI restrictment before moving up stakes, that way I don't care if I have a loosing day/week (it does hurt to have a loosing month though:))

3. quit when you're feeling frustrated/tilted/not playing your A-game

4. mix in smaller field tourneys, that way you get some final tables day which boost your morale. (as a grinder decreases your hourly because of lower attainable ROI's but because of higher 'morale' you can grind longer sessions thus higher income:))

]]> Wed, 10 Jul 2013 06:28:27 -0400 zxdakev on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47815 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47815 thanks 🙂

]]> Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:10:19 -0400 bennymacca on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47760 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47760 taking a few days off definitely helps. come back when you want to play, not when you feel like you have to play becasue you always have played on that night or whatever. 

 

and yeah i think the biggest one is playing within your bankroll. if a tourney means a lot to you because you feel like you have to win it, then when you get sucked out on it is going to hurt even more. 

 

here is the best article that i have ever read, and probably the bit of information from TPE that has helped my game the most. 

 

.....tion-tips/

]]> Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:19:50 -0400 zxdakev on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47745 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47745 thanks for the reply - ill try and let you know how i go - Im gonna take a few days off too smile

]]> Mon, 08 Jul 2013 15:29:00 -0400 terbet11 on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47742 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47742 Stay within your bankroll, play when you are mentally fresh, know stack sizes, and try to make the best decision EVERY time. I know it sounds easy to do, but this is the key to surviving as a mtt player in my opinion.

]]> Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:18:18 -0400 Sen on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47722 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47722 Nothing wrong at all in your playin here. Just a normal river suck out.

Trust me, I had a terrible month and this July hasn't gone any better until now.

The best suckout was just one week ago: I was sitting on a FT, $2.4k on top for 1st. After I lost a 60:40 I was 5./5 when I picked up TT. My stack was a push or fold, so I got it in. Was snap called by 99. Guess what? Flop was 99x. Yeah, so I finished 5th for ~$500 instead of 1. - 3. for $1k+.
And before that i had about 6 river bad beats that cost me approx. $7k. No kidden. But some day, I hope, I'll just be at the right end of varience.

My advice: Just keep playing your game correctly, try to get a good volume of games so that variance may eventually even out. Thats what I hope for at least.

GL!

]]> Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:23:30 -0400 zxdakev on These bad beats/down swing doing my head in https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47715 Mental Game https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mental-game/these-bad-beatsdown-swing-doing-my-head-in/#p47715 Hi guys

 

Im after some advice really - Im not the best player - which is why I'm here trying to improve my game.

 

But these badbeats and down swing is getting the better of me - can anyone give some advice???

 

thanks

 

Kev

 

PS typical hand below - if I played it wrong please let me know your opinion - the caller was a fisg with stat of 55/10

 

PokerStars Hand #101096148395: Tournament #812010487, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2013/07/07 20:16:52 WET [2013/07/07 15:16:52 ET]
Table '812010487 108' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Mamoru007 (5549 in chips) 
Seat 2: flipper1959 (11614 in chips) 
Seat 3: skywalker_si (27829 in chips) 
Seat 4: groszek07 (13289 in chips) 
Seat 5: zxdakev (9710 in chips) 
Seat 6: suckmy4ce (4120 in chips) 
Seat 7: air hay (3790 in chips) 
Seat 8: justlagoon (5660 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: @L1N93 (13418 in chips) 
Mamoru007: posts the ante 85
flipper1959: posts the ante 85
skywalker_si: posts the ante 85
groszek07: posts the ante 85
zxdakev: posts the ante 85
suckmy4ce: posts the ante 85
air hay: posts the ante 85
justlagoon: posts the ante 85
@L1N93: posts the ante 85
Mamoru007: posts small blind 350
flipper1959: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zxdakev [Kc Kh]
skywalker_si: raises 2800 to 3500
groszek07: folds 
zxdakev: raises 6125 to 9625 and is all-in
suckmy4ce: folds 
air hay: folds 
justlagoon: folds 
@L1N93: folds 
Mamoru007: folds 
flipper1959: folds 
skywalker_si: calls 6125
*** FLOP *** [Td Jc 5c]
*** TURN *** [Td Jc 5c] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [Td Jc 5c Th] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
skywalker_si: shows [3s 3c] (a full house, Threes full of Tens)
zxdakev: shows [Kc Kh] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
skywalker_si collected 21065 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 21065 | Rake 0 
Board [Td Jc 5c Th 3d]
Seat 1: Mamoru007 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: flipper1959 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: skywalker_si showed [3s 3c] and won (21065) with a full house, Threes full of Tens
Seat 4: groszek07 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: zxdakev showed [Kc Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 6: suckmy4ce folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: air hay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: justlagoon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: @L1N93 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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