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        	<title>hapetimes on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Great work man</p>
<p>Like cousteer i have also enjoyed following your thread</p>
<p>atm most of the games i play are 18 man and 45 man $3 and $6 with occasional $16 18 man thrown in</p>
<p>Your rollercoaster ride is exactly what life is like in these games and i applaud you for sticking to it, having faith in your game and after all of it, coming out better off in the end (ROI, bankroll, and theory wise)</p>
<p>Now when you are deep in a large MTT with a stack anywhere from 5BB to 15BB, your decisions will be eeeeezy and snap!</p>
<p>Like always though, just need a little bit of run good juice and you&#039;ll be away laughing</p>
<p>GL man</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 05:51:06 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like a great idea cousteer. I would love to participate in a competition like that, maybe we should start a thread for an upcoming month or something. I wish I could play some 90m KO&#039;s, but unfortunately I am in the US and stuck playing at the smaller sites. I&#039;m still adjusting to them and not completely familiar with the tournament structures/schedule. So I guess I won&#039;t be able to participate in any competition anyway unless I&#039;m able to play at the site. But before I do anything else, I must clear these first deposit bonuses before they go to waste.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 05:19:50 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>cousteer on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>mate, I really enjoyed following your thread.  I&#039;ve had the same frustrations with the 18 maxs and have recently stopped playing them.  I do envy your upswing finale. My personal aim was to cash in 5 successive games but 3 was my best.  It would be great to see you replicate this with the $3 or $6 90 max KOs.  Maybe a few TPE members would enjoy participating in some healthy competition. i.e. who achieves the highest ROI over 100 tourneys, who has the most KO&#039;s etc... I&#039;d be keen to have a crack as I&#039;m generally playing these at the moment. It would be a great incentive to at least maintain focus if pride is on the line! Any takers?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 06:41:11 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>FINISHED!</strong></p>
<p>Games played:<strong> 300</strong></p>
<p>Starting BR: $1389.91</p>
<p><strong>Current BR: $1643.11</strong></p>
<p><strong>Winnings: $253.20<br />
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<p><strong>ROI: 13%</strong></p>
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<p>I got what I hoped for and hit a pretty nice upswing before I finished. Good thing because I do not plan to play these ever again. I think that these do not prepare you for real final tables because we are all so short in these and the money jumps just aren&#039;t there for you to practice and get used to like I was looking for. I&#039;m glad though because now I can start grinding for some real scores.<strong> <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="smile" /><br />
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 04:09:26 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#039;s just about 12:00am here and I still have 25 more games to play to make 300. I&#039;m still going to post this graph as the next 40 games so it only goes up to game 260. I will finally be done by tomorrow and hopefully with a positive ROI.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><strong>Days left: 0</strong></p>
<p>Games left: <strong>40</strong></p>
<p>Remaining cost: <strong>$260</strong></p>
<p>Current BR: $1492.71<strong><br />
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<p>&#160;</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 02:49:47 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Days left: 1</strong></p>
<p>Games left: <strong>80</strong></p>
<p>Remaining cost: <strong>$520</strong></p>
<p>Current BR: $1504.31</p>
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<p>Today is crunch time! I probably won&#039;t finish before 5/01 like I was aiming for but I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be done by the end of it. I just hope I can get one more fat upswing or at least not a big downswing.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 04:18:58 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>bennymacca on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>boom upswing! thats more like it. </p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>if you dont achieve your goal, go again next month. </p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:57:13 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Days left: 2</strong></p>
<p>Games left: <strong>120</strong>/2= <strong>60/day</strong></p>
<p>Remaining cost: <strong>$780</strong></p>
<p>Current BR: $1440.31<strong></strong></p>
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<p>Now were talking! I&#039;ve toned the aggression down a bit and focused more on getting my money in good rather than going out of my way and trying bully everyone. I have finally learned that no matter what I do, I just can&#039;t get them to fold those premiums.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-confused.gif" alt="confused" /></p>
<p>My only concern now is that I won&#039;t meet the deadline. These don&#039;t load fast enough and I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ll have to grind them during the slow hours in order to make it.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:34:24 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>bennymacca on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>trust me, the sooner you stop caring about the bad beats, the sooner you will concentrate on crushing instead of focussing on the times you lose. </p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>geep going, you look like you are on the right track</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:02:45 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Days left: 4</strong></p>
<p>Games left: <strong>160</strong>/4= <strong>40/day</strong></p>
<p>Remaining cost: <strong>$1040</strong></p>
<p>Current BR: $1257.51</p>
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<p>Although this looks really bad, I actually feel really good about how I have been playing. I was surprised by how little I tilted and losing didn&#039;t seem to bother me. I felt like I was concentrating much more on the decision making and not the results. I was actually looking forward to bad beats because it confirms that I am +EV in these. I know I am playing well and using skill while the majority of these other players are completely clueless and must rely on luck. However, they were getting extremely lucky and there wasn&#039;t much I could do. I counted 4 times in these past 40 games where I got AA AIPF, and lost 3 of them. Sometimes it seems like a joke but I try to look at it as self-control challenge where the poker gods are trying everything they can to get me to tilt. It helps keep me level-headed but there are times when I just want to forget it and yell out, "F*** YOU POKER GODS!". I&#039;m sure it will turn around soon.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 04:02:33 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support hapetimes! It looks like you know exactly what I&#039;m going through. I lol&#039;ed at "wanting to kill someone" because that&#039;s what I was thinking all day yesterday. You made me realize that these are not even massive downswings and by letting these swings tilt me, I will never be able to crush these games. Everyone experiences the same amount of variance and I guess it is those who accept it, rather than letting it tilt them, that become the winners. I have never grinded SNG&#039;s like this before and am learning a lot more about variance. So now, the new part of my challenge is to look variance right in the face and work on embracing it and not tilting from it.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:42:01 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hapetimes on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah when u mentioned the raise/fold with 10BBs i immediately thought it wouldnt work - but hadn&#039;t tried it myself. Good news is you now know it doesnt so stop doing it.</p>
<p>When i was a member at sitngogrinders.com this subject came up A LOT. Handling variance and eventual questioning if you are actually playing correctly/ making the right moves/ leading to smashing the desktop/wanting to kill someone etc. and the overwhelming advice from the pro&#039;s is that you really have to push through it all. Keep studying, keep reviewing your hands, keep analysing spots. Hell they push through 100buy in down swings sometimes (thats what they say anyway) and bugger me i never got close to that. It is the nature of the game and the people who learn how to handle this, and handle it faster, are the one&#039;s who succeed.</p>
<p>Keep in mind the higher the starting field the higher the variance and that turbo&#039;s just add to the swings.</p>
<p>I reckon you&#039;re not doing bad at all.</p>
<p>It looks like from around game 34-60 and from game 75-100 you had downswings of approx $100. This is only 17 or so buy in&#039;s, on the light side i reckon.</p>
<p>Dont second guess yourself is my advice.</p>
<p>Keep your head down and love bad beats! After all, if you get bad beat, you somehow ended up with your chips in the middle with the best of it! cant ask for much more than that.</p>
<p>Good luck and keep it up<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="smile" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:34:40 -0400</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Days left: 5</strong></p>
<p>Games left: <strong>200</strong>/5= <strong>40/day</strong></p>
<p>Remaining cost: <strong>$1300</strong></p>
<p>Current BR: $1387.91</p>
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<p>Grinding these seems hopeless to me. I can&#039;t stand the variance at all. Even if you manage to build a big stack, once the blinds get big enough, you can easily lose a few pots and go from chip leader to short stack or busto. Short-term luck rules in these since you are rarely able to do anything other than shove/fold and it really just comes down to who&#039;s dealt what in the end. Attempting to raise/fold with a 10bb stack left me in really awkward spots<br />
where I was always getting decent odds to call and not sure if I was<br />
being played back at or actually ran into a strong hand. I would much rather shove and avoid these tough decisions. Any suggestions out there?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 03:17:15 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>hightillidie on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>After this update I&#039;m going to start posting updates every 40 games instead.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><strong>Days left: 6</strong></p>
<p>Games left: <strong>240</strong>/6= <strong>40/day</strong></p>
<p>Remaining cost: <strong>$1560</strong></p>
<p>Current BR: $1388.71</p>
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<p>I officially hate these 18m&#039;s. They&#039;re too much like STT&#039;s and the variance is really tilting. It&#039;s not so much tilting from a single game but when I&#039;m on a cold streak like this, hitting brick after brick, I start getting frustrated. At least I know I ran extremely bad. I lost a lot of important flips and on top of that, a lot of my premiums were not getting paid off--whereas I would pay off so many of theirs by shoving right into them--and usually I just took down the blinds when I had them. I feel that this is also considered running bad because these turbo games rarely last longer than 100 hands so you must get the most value that you can from every premium you&#039;re dealt. So as for adjustments, I&#039;m going to try get more value from all my hands now and not bet players out just because I&#039;m scared of a draw or something. But besides that I must also recognize when I&#039;m up against regs who have seen how I play because I have started to see some myself and wasn&#039;t aware that there were as many as I&#039;ve seen so far. And since these are like STT&#039;s, I&#039;m going to start treating the blinds differently and value my stack more. I think I&#039;m too used to playing in regular MTT&#039;s where it&#039;s okay to be shoving your stack for 15bb&#039;s and I seem to get into that push/fold mode too early. Perhaps I&#039;ll start to raise/fold with a 10bb stack and see if I get played back at more or if everyone remains nitty. Maybe then I can escape from their monsters.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 04:19:13 -0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>Killingbird on April - 18m/45m SNG grinding</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>keep at it buddy!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:11:47 -0400</pubDate>
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