Come to think of it, as silly as it sounds, he may have called a shove w the A3o. I mean he r/c w Q8o for most of his stack. And if he called w the A3o and lost, it would have just been a slight dent to his stack.

I guess that's not important here.

Would u also shove 99 and TT?  JJ+ would be way too strong to open shove, right? What about AK, AQ? Is there an argument for opening vs this guy in the bb instead of shoving?

Thanks for your opinion.

One of the ways the guy that knocked me out started to chip up, and eventually won, raise called a 3bet shove w Q8o for almost his whole stack when there were about 13 left. Then right after that, he 4x's fr utg and calls another shove w QJo. So forget what the charts say vs this guy. But even if there weren't players like him at the final table, the charts aren't that usefull bec icm factors come into play.

But in a situation where there might be 15 -20 pple left and I have like 15-18 bbs and it comes to me unopened, I'll prob shove a range pretty close to what the charts say.

I started the hand with 19 bbs - there could be a case for open shoving, but I min'd fully expecting him to flat fr the bb w prob up to 60 or 70% of his range. I think most of the times, he flats and x/folds to my cbet or even peels flop and then folds to a turn bet. Pretty sure playing it like that vs a player like this is more profitable than open shoving in the long run. Not this time though, but no regrets.

gl sir