11 Responses to “TPE Theory: Getting Paid with Andrew Brokos (Part 2)”
loxxii
Where can I learn how to do the filtering?
I got a good chuckle out of imagining a guy at the main event final table flopping the nut flush and saying my hand is worth 4 bet aloud. Everyone snap folds.
Good content Andrew.
Really like the format (theory, examples, how to practice).
I understand the idea to plan for whether you want to be the one betting or calling, but I didn’t fully pick up on how to evaluate that.
Thanks, PF. It comes down to what sorts of hands you’re looking to get value from. Are they marginal hands trying to get to showdown cheaply, or are they monster or air hands? If you want to get value from marginal hands, you generally need to do the betting yourself. Usually opponents will bet their monsters, and they may or may not bet their air, but they aren’t going to call with it, so you might as well give them the chance.
I like the JJ limp! In some lineups this is great as u say. I would actually even consider a bet on the river , people doesn’t see players value bet on the river with other things than flushes there so they might look u up with a ten thinking u are very polarized, having hands like qj qk in ur range. Maybe too thin but…?
Andrew, in hand example to you are missing the possibility either of the two players has hit the nut straight (AQ) or second straight (Q9).otf. Instead you are talking about fullhouses, which are not possible on a KJT flop.
Btw I’m a big fan of your videos, thanks!.
At 25minutes, you had pocket tens and the guy before you raises. You call hoping he has 99. Then a 9 hits the flop and you drop the whole 99 premise. Why put him on a hand and then drop it when it does not suit you anymore as having a better hand?
loxxii
Where can I learn how to do the filtering?
I got a good chuckle out of imagining a guy at the main event final table flopping the nut flush and saying my hand is worth 4 bet aloud. Everyone snap folds.
Foucault
If you use HM2, Ben Hayles as a very good series here on TPE about how to use that. There’s a bit of guide for how to do this in PT4 on their website: http://www.pokertracker.com/guides/PT4/general/pokertracker-4-quick-start-guide#reviewing-statistics-and-hands. It’s not real thorough, but it should give you an idea of where to look.
piefarmer
Good content Andrew.
Really like the format (theory, examples, how to practice).
I understand the idea to plan for whether you want to be the one betting or calling, but I didn’t fully pick up on how to evaluate that.
Foucault
Thanks, PF. It comes down to what sorts of hands you’re looking to get value from. Are they marginal hands trying to get to showdown cheaply, or are they monster or air hands? If you want to get value from marginal hands, you generally need to do the betting yourself. Usually opponents will bet their monsters, and they may or may not bet their air, but they aren’t going to call with it, so you might as well give them the chance.
kasperok
Hello Foucault,
What is your line with TT on K82?
Lets say you open MP and BB calls. We can get value from 77-33, 99 and 8x and maybe 2x. Do u bet-check-bet?
JohnnyBoy
another great segment. Looking forward to future eps
Skurtram
I like the JJ limp! In some lineups this is great as u say. I would actually even consider a bet on the river , people doesn’t see players value bet on the river with other things than flushes there so they might look u up with a ten thinking u are very polarized, having hands like qj qk in ur range. Maybe too thin but…?
preparac
Andrew, in hand example to you are missing the possibility either of the two players has hit the nut straight (AQ) or second straight (Q9).otf. Instead you are talking about fullhouses, which are not possible on a KJT flop.
Btw I’m a big fan of your videos, thanks!.
I’m a big
preparac
hand example 2
mayola
At 25minutes, you had pocket tens and the guy before you raises. You call hoping he has 99. Then a 9 hits the flop and you drop the whole 99 premise. Why put him on a hand and then drop it when it does not suit you anymore as having a better hand?
folding_aces_pre_yo
Hey Andrew, great video
in the 1st hand example , why is that you’ve not mentioned that you would also like to get value from KK/QQ/JJ/TT/99?
Our value targets are hands like AQ/AJ also maybe hands like ATs… and these are not the only hands that are in his range ….
so why can’t our value target be wider? which would include those big/medium pocket pairs?