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8 BB utg push ?
B.Ratke
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PokerStars - $2.28+$0.22|50/100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP: 2,664.00
MP+1: 1,560.00
LP: 1,581.00
CO: 1,145.00
BTN: 1,395.00
SB: 2,895.00
BB: 3,345.00
UTG: 1,300.00
Hero (UTG+1): 800.00

SB posts SB 50.00, BB posts BB 100.00

Pre Flop: (150.00) Hero has Jd 8h

fold, Hero ?
 
Do you push here?
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May 12, 2014 - 9:37 am
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Fold.

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Fold.

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Fold.  With better position at the table id push it but UTG +1 is a lot of players to get through with a weak hand.

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I'd always fold this one. You can eat the blinds and not really change your FE at all (you pretty much have none anyhow), so you might as well wait for a better hand to ship it with.

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Depending on the buy in, the passivity of the table, the time of the tournament etc you can shove slightly less or more but shoving J8o here will surely be a mistake almost always. I've put a link below for a push-fold chart that can help you see unexploitable push-fold ranges given antes, stack size and position.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiRCAFDKL6fIdHE0QWt5elZMUkU4YzVrSlBVZk5EMFE#gid=0

 

UTG+1 , with no antes and 8bb you should be shoving a range like —- 33+ A9s+ ATo+ K9s+ KQo QTs+ JTs 

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Easy fold pre-ante. With antes there are tables where you could go with J8s, but J8o is too weak.

Side note: Push-fold charts are only useful up to a point. They'll teach you how to play profitably, but they won't teach you how to play optimally.

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