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January 1, 2018
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I give up. For me its impossible to win online. In my last 32 MTTs 29 times I’ve gotten all in with a better pocket pair than my opponent and I’ve been knocked out or crippled by losing to a Set. The other 3 I’ve lost KK to AK twice by a runner runner wheel and once by an Ace. Clearly I can’t win so I give up. Love the site, learned a lot but the frustration is too much to take. My Favorites:
QQ vs A 10 and 10 10 flop is a 10 3 4
KK on the button, I raise and get called by SB and BB who have JJ and QQ, flop is J Q 3…..but I could go on and on but what’s the point. Good Luck all.
January 10, 2017
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Damn man that is brutal. Sorry about you luck. It happens from time to time but when it does it can seem like it will never end.
TPE Management
April 6, 2010
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that is some sick variance, but hang in there! I can say from experience, it really does swing the other way eventually!! Sometimes just not as quickly as we would like.
January 1, 2018
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Yeah, I have stepped away from the ledge. It’s at the point where I expect to lose with premiums, but I also know the math and it can’t happen forever…..right? Really, it can’t happen forever……
January 1, 2018
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So I stepped back from the ledge, read a few forum entries on bad beats and variance and decided to give it another try last night. Amazingly my better pocket pairs won, I hit my draws, built a decent stack and made the final table in an ACR $11 $7,500 GTD MTT with 666 runners. Unfortunately couldn’t get the win, but a final table is a final table as I finished 9th rejamming AJs into AQ when I was down to 12 BB. Weird to say it was sort of nice to lose a hand I was supposed to lose, LOL. To all who read my whining…thanks for listening. Hopefully this is the beginning of a decent run…..
January 10, 2017
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Nice run man!
TPE Management
April 6, 2010
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very nice run indeed!
January 1, 2018
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Since my original post I have been on a pretty good run, I have finished ITM in 67% of the MTT’s I have entered including a 6th place finish last night in the ACR $11 $7,500 guarantee. A little disappointing as I hit the final table as chip leader, but I’ll take it.
KB did you play this tourney last night? There was a Killingbird at the final table.
February 5, 2015
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Habeeb, this is just the nature of the game. I’m sorry for your previous bad run, but bad beats…even downswings…are irrelevant in the long run. The only thing which matters is that you are getting it in good. Higher pair vs lower pair getting beat? This is a good result. KK getting beat by AK? This is a good result. Why? Because you got it in good, which is the ONLY THING WHICH MATTERS.
You keep GII good, youre going to win money. This is a long term game, never short term. Don’t be results oriented.
And dont forget, if you have been beat out as a favourite over a long period, you are owed all that variance back, not just to break even, but to realise all that equity you were ‘cheated’ out of…in other words, you’re due to get all that money back when you get it in bad.
This is advantage gambling after all.
January 1, 2018
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Well I keep getting it in good and keep losing, lol. If things don’t change soon I’ll have to pack it in as my bankroll will be depleted. In the last couple of weeks my win percentage when being all in (usually against a short stack) with a dominating Ace is about 10%. Generally what happens is I build a decent stack and then the shorties start jamming their aces and I lose with AK or AQ three or 4 times and then I’m the shorty. Oh well I’ll keep at it.
October 4, 2017
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Habeeb said
Well I keep getting it in good and keep losing, lol. If things don’t change soon I’ll have to pack it in as my bankroll will be depleted. In the last couple of weeks my win percentage when being all in (usually against a short stack) with a dominating Ace is about 10%. Generally what happens is I build a decent stack and then the shorties start jamming their aces and I lose with AK or AQ three or 4 times and then I’m the shorty. Oh well I’ll keep at it.
Habeeb,
You “quit”, than stepped back from the ledge and now it seems you are going over things in your head. The advice I am going to give may not be all that popular BUT here it is goes… What you described is 100% natural. Your initial “decision” was more impulsive than rational. But NOW that you dipped your toes in again and still feel it truly may be time to quit well… maybe it IS. I don’t need to know the current state of your bank roll or the stakes you play. Sure poker is a long term game. Do you know what else is? Life. And if poker is beating you down to where it is affecting you personally quitting IS probably the best thing. We all know that once you level up, leveling down just isn’t fun or very realistic and being stuck (figuratively AND literally) can be extremely destructive to ones physical and mental health (not to mention ones monetary situation). Everything I am writing is from experience. I’ve been there and I know if or when the odds and swings have truly beat the shit out of me for the final time I will leave the game never to look back. I won’t play a friendly game, low stakes and I definitely will leave the “scene” (one of the things that keep SO MANY truly losing players involved), not even watching the damn game. It’s a tough way to make a tough living and can be a very costly and damaging “hobby” or source or some “side hustle”. That said evaluate you life and make the best decisions for YOU. I hope you update us either way.
P.S. – Remember variance owes you nothing!!! There is a reason most of us stop hearing from people on multi year downswings. Some of the “where are they now?’ stories are terrible. I know this post may seem like a downer. I just feel that at times it’s good to ponder and truly recognize the negative aspects of “gambling”, skill game or not and it’s a subject that can be taboo almost to the point of “repressed” for the sake of the games economy, bizarre rationalizations and not knowing or showing when enough is enough.
Peace,
RE
January 1, 2018
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Raisers, good comments. I always prefer the honest answers versus the feel good. Another hobby of mine is guitar playing and I have a band that gigs occasionally. I’m always looking for feedback, but usually its everything was great blah blah blah. I have one friend though who comes out most of the time and when I need real honest answers he is the guy I go to. He is brutally frank. Not in a negative way, he just calls it as he sees it. I’ve become a much better guitar player because of it. Good constructive criticism is important and never taken negatively.
So I slowed down my playing, spent more time on this site. Studied as much as I could. Played three tournaments this weekend finishing ITM money in two of the three. One final table finishing third, lost my last two hands when I was ahead, but was able to recover all my loses from 2018 and put me in the green. Lucky? Maybe, i did crack aces twice but I felt I was due, LOL. Anyways, I plan to keep on studying, limit my tournament play to some degree and see what happens.
This weekend will include some live tournament play at a WSOP circuit event in Milwaukee, assuming I survive the negative 27 degrees coming to Chicago tomorrow.
Thanks to all the advice and kind words above.
January 1, 2018
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Survived the -27 degrees and survived 1048 players in event 2 of the WSOP circuit at Potowatomi in Milwaukee. Finished 50th so not to bad. I’ll try again up there next Sunday.
January 1, 2018
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Took 14th out of 301 yesterday in event 12 of the WSOP circuit. So on a good run the last few weeks.
TPE Management
April 6, 2010
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very nice run!
January 1, 2018
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and……..I suck again……need to study more, just haven’t had the time. Bought Andrew’s new book, so hoping to spend some time on that.
February 5, 2015
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Another thing Habeeb,
just to make you feel even worse, I was listening to an interview with Mike Caro, who I think is a genius mind in poker, and he reckons NLHE is so vast a game, that it is possible to run bad…for ones whole life! Not sure if this also applies to online though…probably not.
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