View Plans & Pricing

If you are signed in and are seeing this message, please be sure you have selected a user name in My Profile. The forum requires it.
A A A
Search

— Forum Scope —




— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 (0 votes) 
sp_TopicIcon
2nd pair in low spr pot 1/2
jacobsharktank
Florida
Playing The Prelims
Members
Forum Posts: 547
Member Since:
December 24, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
July 23, 2015 - 11:39 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

I recently went through my phone and pulled up a few cash game hand histories. They're from a Tuesday night session at 1/2nl in Sarasota Florida. 

 

We're 7 handed. Old lady limps. She just 3b from $6 to $20 on the btn and showed down Kings preflop. She has around $300 in front of her. Middle aged gambler overlimps the cutoff with $100 in front.

He sat down and won/was involved in the last 5 hands. He seems to like to lead out with pairs and doesnt want to fold. I believe he ck/called in a bad spot on the river after betting turn and river completing a lot of stuff. I didn't see his hand, but it was my opinion he didn't need any bluff catchers because the villain he was up against probably doesn't bluff. 

 

Hero raises to $10 on the button with KhJh

SB cold calls. mp folds. co calls.

 

I range sb as 67s, 78s, 89s, T9s, JTs, QJs, KQs, KTs, KJs, QTs, A2s-AJs, 22-TT, ATo

CO as like 40% idk. he limp/called K6o another hand I have noted, and he said allowed in another hand “I'd rather dominate you postflop than preflop”. He raied 85o utg and 65o utg later in the session so he's pretty much all over the place preflop.

 

flop ($30ish) QhJc4s

checks to me. in game I checked back, but now very unsure of that. My thoughts on checking are that the villains in the co have a ton of Qx, and fewer Jx as I have one, fewer 4x, and then overcard/gutshot. The sb I think is folding a lot as most of his combos whiff this flop. He and I have an spr of 6 and the co and I have an spr of 3.

I was wary of betting and getting worse than 50% vs the combined callings ranges. Given the low spr of the situation, I was probably timid/afraid of being blown off my hand by T9, T8, KT, K9, AT type hands by the co. I don't even know if he'd ck/jam them, as well as his Qx.

 

turn ($30ish) Qh Jc 4s 4h

It checks to me again. I check back with my 2nd pair and free flush draw. My plan was to bet if checked to me on a blank river and get called by a Jx, and decide vs a river bet.

 

river $30ish, Qh Jc 4s 4h 2c

Sb leads $20, co raises to $40. we all fold.

 

To me, it looks like the sb is betting with his pocket pairs, assuming he'll be called by AK or something, or bluffing with his missed draws. I don't think he'd play this line with his Qx or Jx, and he has like 6 combos of 4x tops. CO can have lots of 4xs but I think he would have bet the turn with most of them, but still can't think he won't have any. He probably leads flop or turn with two pair+. He mostly has 4x or straight draws I guess, unless he'd be willing to bluff more hands, but Idk if he would as I only had like 1 orbit played at that point.

 

Anyway, feel pretty silly/lost writing this down as I think online I'd just auto cbet and assume it's for value. Something about live poker makes me a little uncomfortable, like I have less info available to me.

Foucault

TPE Pro
Members
Forum Posts: 2067
Member Since:
December 6, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
July 23, 2015 - 1:46 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Looks fine to me. Just a sidenote, though, that you don't need 50% equity against combined calling ranges to make betting correct. If you bet and get two calls, you are getting 2:1 on your money, so you need > 33%.

jacobsharktank
Florida
Playing The Prelims
Members
Forum Posts: 547
Member Since:
December 24, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
July 23, 2015 - 3:31 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Thanks, Andrew.

Youre right about the equity necessary against both calling ranges. In my rushed post, I misspoke. What I actually meant is I’m concerned if the sb were to call me, I’d have less than 50% equity against his range for the bet. The same concern goes for the co, but not as much.

Forum Timezone: America/New_York

Most Users Ever Online: 2780

Currently Online:
7 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

bennymacca: 2616

Foucault: 2067

folding_aces_pre_yo: 1133

praetor: 1033

theginger45: 924

P-aire 146: 832

Turbulence: 768

The Riceman: 731

duggs: 591

florianm1: 588

Newest Members:

Johnelwood

Bocheech21

alexalex2015

oneout2many

JLPicard

Jackarmi

Forum Stats:

Groups: 4

Forums: 24

Topics: 12705

Posts: 75003

 

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 1063

Members: 11990

Moderators: 2

Admins: 5

Administrators: RonFezBuddy, Killingbird, Tournament Poker Edge Staff, ttwist, Carlos

Moderators: sitelock, sitelock_1