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September 24, 2014 - 2:40 am
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Alright so this hand was played yesterday at about 3am at borgata. Im actually very pleased with how I played the hand but I think each decision is fairly close considering the amount of variables involved. 

 

The hand begins with a few limps followed by a raise from the cutoff to 20. Button calls and its on me in the sb with 1010. The raiser is a middle aged Asian man who has a fairly wide range in this spot given some of the other hands ive seen him play. He is also very agressive post flop and has about 1k behind. I decide Id rather set mine with 1010 than 3 bet and play this hand oop against this villain so deep. I also plan to just lead on any favorable flops. I also dont want to 3 bet and take this 4 ways oop which isnt unlikely. I flat as does the bb who is a solid reg from Florida who is just here for the series. He tends to play a ton of hands pre and has the ability to bluff/be tricky post. Two limpers call and we go 6 ways to the flop. 

 

Flop is 952rainbow. Basically the best flop possible without hitting a set. I decide this is exactly the type of spot I want to lead and so I bet 60. BB calls, original raiser calls and button calls. I think at this point it is reasonable to assume we have the best hand. The only person capable of flatting here with a monster is the BB but he loves to call with gutshots and other random draws so his range is extremely wide. 

 

Turn is a 7 completing the rainbow. I decide to bet again but on this smallish side. I bet 100 as I think its enough to thin the field a bit. BB calls and the other two fold. At this point I think BB's range is fairly wide and probably on the weak side. He could have flatted with 68 but im not positive he would and I think he raises all sets on the turn. I think its very possible for him to have a bunch of pair plus gutshots or maybe 64, 63, 34 type hand. My range should look very strong in this spot. I think he has to assume I have 2 pair or better here but never 68. He probably assumes I would 3 bet most overpairs preflop. 

 

River is an Ace. I dont think there is really any value in betting as we just cant get called by worse. The question is whether or not this is just an easy check call or check evaluate. I check and villain bets 250. Thoughts?

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hmmm, very hard to put him on a hand here. two pair would make sense, A9 perhaps. He could be trying to turn 98 into a bluff, if he is a decent player he knows you rarely have an ace in your hand. He's giving you a price so I would probably make the crying call but it is a tough spot. i might have bet bigger on the turn ($160-$175) but if he flopped a set you would just be inflating the pot and make river decision even tougher. i wonder if a $130 blocker bet on river makes sense; if he raises it is an easy fold and he might just call with some of his two pair hands and save you $ by not having to call a bigger bet. i'm guessing you folded and he hit his set of deuces. hopefully you'll tell us….

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Dammit I wrote a whole response and it got lost. The short version is you should be 3-betting a lot of strong hands pre-flop and this is definitely one of them. I probably 3-bet like {TT+,A2s+,ATo+,KJo+,K9s+,Q9s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s}. So what if the original raiser calls, he'll either fold to a lot of c-bets or put more money in after the flop with weak hands, either is fine. And if it goes four ways, you'll have to give up somewhat often, but when you don't you'll win a bigger pot, still no problem there.

I like the flop lead.

Turn you are betting like $100 into $360? I think that's really bad and you shouldn't be thinking in terms of thinning the field. Pick a value target – I'd aim for top pair + gutshot – and bet what you think it will call.

River I guess you have to call readless, I mean this is definitely the top of your range, right?

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Foucault said:

Dammit I wrote a whole response and it got lost. The short version is you should be 3-betting a lot of strong hands pre-flop and this is definitely one of them. I probably 3-bet like {TT+,A2s+,ATo+,KJo+,K9s+,Q9s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s}. So what if the original raiser calls, he'll either fold to a lot of c-bets or put more money in after the flop with weak hands, either is fine. And if it goes four ways, you'll have to give up somewhat often, but when you don't you'll win a bigger pot, still no problem there.

I like the flop lead.

Turn you are betting like $100 into $360? I think that's really bad and you shouldn't be thinking in terms of thinning the field. Pick a value target – I'd aim for top pair + gutshot – and bet what you think it will call.

River I guess you have to call readless, I mean this is definitely the top of your range, right?

in defense of Joe's non three bet i'll say that i've played some 2/5 games at Borgata where i've three bet and get a bunch of callers from players largely indifferent to the bet size and their stack size. i wouldnt be entirely surprised if he three bet to $80 and got three callers. with this flop that would be a fine outcome but more often than not he would be oop with at least one overcard and a player eager to get it in with top pair.

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