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Major problems w / thought and tilt in live game
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Hey folks,

 

I have totally underutilized the forum section of this site, which I know is criminal. I've just not been able to get past the videos until now. 

I have been having major problems with my live tournament game. At first I thought it was just my tournament game in general. Now that I've got a lot of online results to compare the live ones to, I still don't think I'm a winning player in tournaments at this point, but I'm doing a lot better online. 

I'm not necessarily talking results-based, though also that – I'm more talking about my own awareness of the quality of my decisions. 

I'm not a stupid person, and having been a longtime cash game player, I know I can also win money playing cards.  And while I've never been a good tournament player, i KNOW that I'm thinking through concepts while playing online that I don't even get to at all while playing live.

I only just today narrowed it down to this: I think I'm playing scared when I play live tournaments. Since its not the money, and I've done very well playing when i SHOULD have been on scared money in live cash games before, or playing tournaments using BRM online, it has to be something inherent in tournaments. And since it's not the money , and because I'm a very competitive person, I'm sure it's because I'm aware of dumb decisions making me look dumb and I care about it FAR too much.

I think the problem in a nutshell is that in cash games I did not fear ****ing up because if I was making a move, I was making a move. If it failed ,it failed, but at least I had recognized a good spot and gone for it. In tournaments, for reasons listed and because I'm becoming so well aware of how valuable one's tournament life is and learning about things like ICM, I'm afraid to get out of line. I have recognized and passed up good spots. Have made way too tight folds. And then finally I'll make a stand, almost always with a suited connector, almost always from way behind and I'll be playing a hand I would have thrown away in the same situation online when asked to play for my stack.

 

the paradox for me is that as I'm tightening up and becoming more passive in my play style I'm playing against how I want to play as a card player. 

 

ive always heard tournaments are easier and cash games are harder but I don't feel that myself. There is an element of a “perception edge” for lack of a better term in cash games for me. I've always been an intuitive reader of people and I think that aids my cash game a lot. I  can act on intuition and when that isnt correct there's always my old friend fold equity 😉 I can make things happen for myself there if I have to – I don't have to be as patient (another big piece of it). in tournaments its like I settle into the grind, get comfortable, start chatting with folks, keep folding J-5 offsuit and other similar trash, finally get a reasonable hand and overplay it and not even realize what happened.

 

Or, as with what happened today, I play cautiously, make a mistake, get angry with myself and make a much bigger mistake — the specifics of this particular example aren't really the issue, but i guarantee I would not have made the fatal play normally, I would have folded out of the hand I busted entirely before seeing a flop and would have lived to see a better spot.

 

I guess what I'm asking for are general tips on FORCING myself to take a longer thought process when playing live. I feel like some kind of autopilot “play bad” switch flips and i do dumb stuff without even realizing, where online I know in the spot that I busted myself in playing live today, i would have either folded or shipped all in before the flop most likely folded. I have a thought process I've been developing and is developing for tournaments. It's not going to make me a winning player overnight but I know it will improve my game if I can slow down my decisions, be more observant, and just generally stop paying as much attention to the social aspect of it – also something with me that just happens automatically. 

 

I'm not giving up;  I take this as a challenge. So I'm just wondering … what do you do to ensure quality decisionmaking during a tournament .. where you cant really stand up and take a break to clear your head if you take a bad beat? that was a failsafe in cash games for me and does not cut muster in tournaments obviously.

 

TLDR; Mental game fish looking for help with tilt and slowing down/examining thought process in tournaments 

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Hi River WL – 

 

I hear you on the challenge of dealing with tilt while you are still in a tourny.  Short answer:  When I have a really good or really bad result, I'll often wait a few hands before playing again, while I recover.     

 

The real answer for me is always motivation.  I ask myself, before hand, why I am buying in.  I found there were some great tidbits about motivation in the “Life Coaching for Poker Players” series by theginger45, if you haven't checked that out yet.

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Thanks, I wlil definitely check that out. The thing that really irks me is I find that playing online, paradoxically, this doesn't happen. You'd think it would happen mor ethere because ostensibly I have more time to think while playing live. I am not at ALL saying I'm a great player online. However I do know some basic facts about poker and I definitely see my live decisions as being both questionable and predictable to other players.  When I play cash live, this doesn't happen either. So I'm thinking it has to be some sort of intimidation factor, or tilt associated with being competitve and wanting to win with ease. I thinkk every poker player has a deep competitive streak and I definitely do, but I am also painfully aware of my shortcomings as a player. I just feel like if i could sloooww down my decision making by just a couple seconds it would give me a benefit.

 

Thanks for that response, I will jump right on that series… smile

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Some of the terminology you have used would suggest that you’ve read mental game of poker. If you have, read it again and do the exercises and work the book as instructed. I had read the book 2 years ago, but I did not put it to use. I’m now on a downswing where all sorts of tilt came out that I had not experienced before and I’m re-reading and actually doing the work this time around. I’m also listening to #2 on audiobook. These two resources are invaluable, but you must work at it.

My mindset in the last 2 weeks, despite still taking the rough end of variance, has never been better. Took some silly beats deep this week, where difference was a ft or making $20 and I didn’t raise an eyebrow, just moved on. Yesterday I had a particularly rough day and felt like I was falling back to old ways, but I noticed it and went through some steps to stop things in place. The mind is a powerful thing and it has the ability to really mess with you, but I think these books can put you back in control. It’s not just about tilt, it deals with motivation, confidence, variance, both when on the positive and negative side.

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A couple of things:
When I think about tilt, my goal is to not allow people see me do it. When I take a bad beat and get knocked out, I want to be the one to shake hands and head out even if I am bothered inside. I want other players to view me as handling it like a pro.

Why are you tilted? If it’s because you got caught bluffing, that’s different from getting rivered. Either way, you need to tighten up and continue to work towards that perfect image.

Note: Warlord and I play in the same local tournament. It is filled with mostly old guys who want to beat the young guys. They go out of their way to do so.

I have spoken to you about your image. You were always looking for spots. The way they view you is loose aggressive. When you play tight and don’t play a lot of hands, you are not using your image properly. If they think you are always bluffing, bet for value. You really don’t need to bluff very much in that game other than for balance. If we all raised, checked and folded the exact same amount, no one would be profitable. Image is everything. I think you view myself, Kyle and Kim as the best in the game. Think about why. Incorporate the things you notice with how we deal with tilt.

You always listen to music. Use it to help control your tilt. If you just lost a hand and start to tilt, put something calming on. If you are playing too tight, put some Rage Against The Machine On! Don’t play another hand until you are mentally ready unless it’s huge. See you soon.

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thanks man. 

 

To anyone that might be reading this, I've been writing up my sessions recently as a way of trying to help me look at my game from the outside.

 

We had the live tournament tonight, and I made several mental corrections — some kinda drastic and not just for poker, but for my thought in general — and I have to say I think it was a success. I busted one spot shy of the final table (I think) but I played a good 4ish hours and played a good game IMO.

I have set a long term goal that I didn't think I would meet this session (tourney runs every week) and some short term goals that I set for this session.

 

Short term goals were:

*keep the total of the pot in my head at all times, be able to rough estmate everyone's stack at the table, keep on watch to make sure these counts are correct.

*watch my opponents much more carefully

*spend an extra 2-3 seconds 'double checking' decisions if i feel they're coming to me too quickly

*DO NOT SPEW CHIPS TO TILT. If I start to feel “injustice tilt” just be glad they got their chips in bad.

 

Long term goal:

Finish first in the tournament. (I have played 8ish? more? times, have cashed twice. Not ahead at all but I MAY be close to breaking even from a couple of good cash game runs there plus a couple of other good recent live results not at this game). 

 

So just three key hands to review. 

 

tHe first one normally would have sent me on monkey tilt to the extreme.

 

Blinds 200/400. I am UTG. I have been fold, fold, fold, folding all night. It has been two hours and I've been looking at J3, 62, 72, 52, all kinds of garbage, just waiting for anything playable. Got no two face cards together, not even shitty ones, got no pairs. FINALLY I wake up with 1010 under the gun. An older player, who I have noticed gives off some info preflop based on how he handles his cards on occasion, looked prepared to fold. But I raised, with blinds 200/400, to 1500 from UTG. he looked at the bet and then looked up at me, took his hands off his cards and called. with 7 people behind. However I know this guy and i know what he's doing. he's assuming im playing such a shitty range that he's just going to float/steal. Well… okay. one player in blind also calls.

 

flop 9 6 3 flush draw on board. check from Blind, I bet 3/4 pot, call, call. turn makes the flush. check check check. river brings a fourth heart. blind bets out. I thought one of my two tens was hearts, but check again and ****, its diamonds.  i have to fold having no heart. UTG+1 calls. Flips over JT, ten of hearts jack of not hearts. blinds shows 6 7 with one heart.  J T had no draw no pair, called my raise way out of position, and went out of his way to give me chips. I checked the turn when the third heart came out and let him get there, sort of.  I had accumulated a few thousand chips and that really hurt my position.

 

Alarm bells going off. Tilt sign blinking on and off on pinball machine. its time for me to make an injustice spew. These ****ing guys call my raises with NOTHING after i sit and sit and sit for 2 hours folding. Then when i finalyl get the hand they cause me to need to fade every draw imaginable.

 

But I just took deep breaths and put on some music, chilled out, promised myself i was going to play a full orbit using only the tip top of my range. Nothing even rclose came, so it amounted to a break lasting one orbit (with me making sure the cards were break-worthy). I'm into transcendental meditation so I put on an audio file containing my mantra and kind of took some deep breaths and reminded myself its just a game, and its just money. i was not playing with the grocery money or anything.

 

So that turned into a lot more folding and waiting. Finally one of the game's very strong players raised with me in bb from UTG. he usually picks on my button but i guess becasue he was so far off from it he wasnt able to. I put him on a really strong range with that hand. He has shown willingness to call my shoves with a strong pocket pair, so im not pushing him off those, but i know how he will play them. 

 

he did not have a lot of chips at that point and he made a bet that I took as extremely weak on a 7-3-3 (or close – a pair and a rag) board. instict said “good spot” and I jammed it. he folded and was muttering for several hands, even missing when it was his action. I felt good about that one. 

 

Finally I fold fold fold some more until i am sort of in push or fold mode and I've got 99 in the big blind. it folds to small blind who says “raise” and i make my mistake for the night, which luckily wasnt TERRIBLE since i  didnt have a TON of chips. i thoujght he had already put in his raise and he hadn't. I was thinking too much about the chips. I said “all in”  and he recognized my confusion. he did not have to put any chips in even a min raise (which I thought was bs but it ended up not mattering) and he said call. flips over qj. Queen  damn jack for 12,000 or so chips with blinds at 400/800 or whatever. when im raising it after giving up tons of hands preflop and not playing anything except for the 1010 that lost, a couple big preflop hands that won without action pre, and the bluff vs the strong player.  i didnt show the bluff so everything i showed was strong. and he figured qj is good against my range when i push, even though i treat my chips too cautiously, its clear to everyone paying attention, and THNE i throw them away after a mistake. I had not made a mistake. I know i was very confident when i said it.

 

So after thhat beat I was out and I left. Results wise, this one was another goose egg. However – I felt I was spending a lot more time thinking about what was going on in and out of hands. I felt that i was “on” in a way i havent felt in a good while. I have to say part of that is – long story, but i broke my femur several months ago, and ive been on pretty heavy pain meds to combat the arthritis ive gotten as a result. i finally decided those things were clouding up my head way too much and have been getting off them. That's just one factor of many, but i felt alive, and on point. If I had made it to the money, i know i would not have made the damn stupid mistakes I have made the last couple times ive made the money.

 

I'm going to keep updating this post on this topic – if nothing else it helps me. Thanks to you guys who have offered your advice.

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also, thanks for the tip re mental game of poker. i've read it and i need to read it again. i have strayed.

 

I think a lot of this mindset stuff has to do with real-life stress, and to some degree that can't be helped. Part of my strategy has to be being willing to say no to playing on days I don't feel up to it.

 

I also have to remidn myself in a winning player at some games. This happens to be a really tough game that i go to, there are some definite fish, but some seriously good players there as well .subfocused is only one of many, tho i consider him top tier for sure. he is a TPE member of course cool

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and to some degree im playing out of my league there, but i know that im smart enough to do this. 

 

side note. sub focused came to my house to help me break in a poker table for a single table tournament. he destroyed it. but my wife cashed too, 3rd place. i busted like 8th. My wife has played 4 tournaments and 2 cash games, sort of, and doens't read TPE forums though she's watched some of the videos with me. She was happily putting chips in in spots where it looked obvious she was bluffing. she later explained thought process on several hands and i was like … damn. .. you're going to be better at this than me very soon if oyu aren't already. 

 

that said, we met as spades partners. you cant really hate that.

 

…Maybe she should play at Don's game and I should stay home and watch Desperate housewives or whatever the hell wives in America are watching these days.

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I definitely would go back and read TMGP 1 and really work the book.  Setup your mental and tactical goals for the session.  Warm-up.  Build your injecting statements to right the ship when things are going off course.  Experiment with deep breathing when you notice the onset of tilt and bad thoughts.  Once you get good at this, it shouldn't take you away from the table, you shouldn't need an orbit to calm down, you'll learn to do it and get yourself on track before the tilt builds up.  One beat will no longer set you over the edge and that's important.  A big part of TMGP 1 and 2 is doing the work away from and at the table so that you become hyper sensitive to the issues at hand.  This has worked very well for me, I'm only 3 weeks in, but now I hardly get phased about the beats.  I took some unfortunate ones with 50 left in several 1K-2K runner fields and if it were 3 weeks ago I would have blown up, but I'm learning to embrace the variance and no longer linking results with my emotions or how I'm playing.

 

Your short term goals are good ones, but take it a step further split out into tactical and mental goals.  And practice these over and over until you do them without thought, this is when it becomes part of your instinct or “unconscious competence” and it should be what you are striving for.  Don't confuse things by changing your goals a bunch, you can tweak them from session to session, but don't remove one until it's a learned thing, easily done when you think about it and then done on it's own. 

 

One of my tactical goals has been to up my 3b and 4b percentage.  I had been keeping up my VPIP/PFR, but my 3b and 4b was < 5% most of the time, so the goal for all of the sessions the last 3 weeks has been to increase this amount, I didn't set a goal amount, just move in the right direction, what I'm finding is I'm opening slightly less hands now, but 3b more often and it's netting more chips.  The stacks I've had deep are much larger then in the previous months and I think it's partially due to this.  By doing this at every session and focusing on it, it's becoming a learned thing, something I have to think less about.  The 2nd part of the goal I set was more mental, and that's not to back down from spots because I'm worried about a negative result.  A fun hand that happened as a result was last sunday, a guy opening 25% of pots opens the co, and the button who is 3betting 11% 3bets and has a high fold to 3b% (which makes me think his fold to 4b would be higher).  I have ATo in the sb and normally I'd snap muck this, but decided what better time then to cold 4b with 50bb.  He folds, flop comes Txxr and I cbet small, he snap jams and I call.  He has 44 and I win a huge pot, one that I never put myself in position to win before.  I went deep in this tournament, but did not reach the final table.  I lost on the day, but when I was doing the cool down I reviewed this hand and others and felt good about the progress and know that with some time things like this will happen more often and I'll propel deeper with larger stacks.  Another reason why I bring this up is despite the results on the day there was many positives that happened.  I'm no longer linking cash in the cashier with how I'm playing because it's not important in the short run.

 

You are right that things in your normal life can effect poker and it's great that you are being aware of when you shouldn't play.  But also be aware that you should try some mental improvements to allow yourself to play even when under these stresses.  Set a mental goal to not allow the outside to effect what you are doing at the table.  An injecting logic statement might be something like “Playing poker allows me to block out the outside world, enjoy the time in peace”.

 

Your long term goal is an interesting one.  And your statement that you don't think you can do it this session is negative.  Winning the tournament can actually be a short term goal, it could happen the next time you play.  You could play horribly and still win.  A better goal might be to play your best and improve each time you play.  See if you play your best and improve then the results will come.  Also once you win the tournament that will give you much needed confidence, but it doesn't show that you played good or that variance was way on your side.  See the difference?

 

When I read your HH recap one thing strikes me as something I had done before and that's talking about not having any playable hands.  The thing is that you don't need playable hands.  It's not about the hands, it's about the spots and playing aggressive in those spots.  There had to be times that you got Ax after a raise, or 86s, or even 79o.  Maybe one of your tactical goals for the next session could be to 3b the bottom of your calling range each time the opportunity presents itself and the opener is active.  You'll be surprised how much fun it is to play poker when the hands don't matter.  Or how fun it is when you smash a straight or two pair and get it in with someone who can't fold.

 

Reading the TT hand I can hear that you might have some tilt still from the hand.  Saying things like they call with nothing and cause you to fade every draw suggest you are still upset.  Some injecting logic might be “I can't control what others do with their cards, I can only play my best” or “It's good that they got in with me in that spot, in the longrun I'm going to gain chips”. Pre flop you have 50% equity 3 handed.  On the flop you have 58%, and 64% on the turn.  Yes you lost the hand, but seeing this should encourage you that it's profitable in the long run and it's not going to happen every time and when your hand holds you will win a nice pot.

 

As you open more pots you might also start working on your bet size.  That was a big raise UTG and the bet on the flop is big, these guys should be folding based on that alone, but you are not giving them room to tool out.  What if your bet pre and on the flop was a bit smaller and one of them decided to raise instead of call, you could be playing a big pot heads up where you have the villian crushed.  Good things like that happen when you induce instead of bet to protect.  I'm not saying this specific board is the best place for that, but it's one of the many things you can work on to improve.

Good stuff on taking the breaths and listening to music, if that works for you to keep calm, excellent.  Injecting logic that it's just a game and you are not losing the grocery money is great too, all positive steps.

 

NH on jamming the 733 board.  Taking spots like that where you feel it and know to do it are huge.

On the TT hand, again it seems like you are still on tilt and would have been happy with just having him fold.  TT vs QJ, you are a favorite.  If he's calling with QJ it also probably means he's calling with 88 and 99 which means you are going to get into some spots where you crush him in the future.  These are all really good things.  You got to feel good about being at a table where you've folded a ton and villian still calls off with QJ, it means he's not paying attention and made a bad call, this is good for you in the future.

 

It's good that you are thinking about things away from the table, that you are part of TPE and that you do want to imrpove.  You don't sound like someone that thinks they know it all and the only reason they are losing is because your opponents are lucky. 

 

It's also cool that your wife likes to play.  Mine does as well, she's had some success, but does not take it seriously and that works for her.  She'll win our home game from time to time or go to one of the tougher 50 person home games we attend and win after a long downtime of not playing.  It keeps her playing which I like to see.

 

I look forward to hearing about your progress.  Good luck man!

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Need stack sizes on future examples. I am going to go through this one hand before bed and just do a mock example.

Blinds 200/400 10 10 hand. 9h 6h 3x Xh Xh. 1500 UTG hero. Villains UTG+1 and BB call.

Those are just my notes. This tournament alternates between a $50R and a $80 freezeout. It’s important to note because the $50R has 4 rebuy levels. The last being this one. However, I know this was the $80.

Starting stack: 15k
Levels:
25/50
50/100
100/200
100/200/50
150/300/50
200/400/100

I am going to just guess stack sizes are close to 15k. This is probably not right but let’s just make them 15k effective. This isn’t the mental side of things but it’s understanding your opponents.

200/400/100 9-handed
1500 per orbit
M=10

I raise to 900. Villain #1 calls UTG1 and Villain #2 calls BB. Pot 3800.
You raised to 1500. Pot 5500.

Flop: 9h 6h 3x
I c-bet 1350. They call. Pot 7850.
You c-bet 4000. They call. Pot 17500.

Turn Xh. This is a great card for you. If I have a nut draw and I called pre. When you bet 3/4 pot it’s going in…these are weak hands calling you. Perfect spot to barrel. If you are going to barrel what’s the plan? Gotta go to bed. I’ll try to continue this Sunday. Tomorrow is crazy for me!

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Ok so where was I…

I think you need to adjust your style in this particular game. You should be switching gears. Your bet sizing should be smaller. You should be more careful. The 10 10 hand…I don't like your plan. Dictate the play of the table. That doesn't mean raise every hand, but you shouldn't fold for two straight hours regardless of cards. A good way to practice this is pick a weak player…3-bet on your button without looking at your cards. Play it like you have aces. C-bet, but never 3/4 unless you want to get bluff raised or floated…bet a normal amount…win with a two barrel or finally check your hand after your two barrel is called. Note: You need to make it look like you have looked. Hopefully we get on the same table this week and I can analyze your play more.

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Thanks for the reply folks. I have been waiting for a chance to get to respond. I'll just note the things i've prioritized after a general response…

 

The approach described by subfocused – particularly that of picking on a bad player with isolation & postflop play – sort of looks like a return to the way i want to play. I had returned to tournaments recently after 2 straight years of 14ish days a month of casino and home cash game play, no tournaments almost whatsoever, and found that i was “playing the player” alomst too much, or so it seemed. 

 

I generally do widen my range of 3 bets but my traditional way of doing it has been the Harrington-advised method of looking at the watch and noting the second hand to randomize when you do it light.

 

At the game in the last two sessions I have been noticeably card dead .. . much worse than typical nit complaints about that, just hands i fold all day in a cash game. the concept of blind stealing has evolved so much since i was playing tournaments that i can see ive gotten lax about playing position w/o the cards.

 

I actually have been practicing pretending not to look in games with my wife and best friend, ive made it work a couple times.

 

as for my goals, I agree they were rather thin. Ive replaced them with a few of the 'missions' at the back of hulls' “poker plays you can use”

So that's 3 books im making integral to this whol ething, but that's lucky for me. i've been reading 3+ hours a day since first or second grade… weird habit to stick, but there youi go.

 

thanks again for all that input, i strongly feel that this game is going to be better. however, subfocused, i really dont think ill play well if im feeling like you're analyzing my play on the spot. I'm fine with you doing that and telling me about it later, just don't make any references to the fact that you're watching during the session, unless its something hugely important. it'll throw me off, is all. i

 

i tried playing with no music at all last time and that actually did make a difference. but i am going to try it with again this time.

will pos tagain soon with updated list of goals ive been working on

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I’m analyzing everyone’s game at the table. When I play live I am building a HUD database in my head. I’m watching what cards players show up with. Kyle, for example, have an early position limp-shove range so far of AA-JJ, AK, KJ suited. Andrew calls raises and leads most flops. If you have a hand, it’s better to trap Don than try to bet for value. Don’t try to bluf Taft, he is going to call you down. I’m trying to keep track of c-betting frequencies, 3-betting, what hands show up in what spots, sizing, etc. Analyzing other people’s play is one of the best ways to improve your game.

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May 14, 2014 - 4:59 pm
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Oh, for sure!  I do the same thing. Your notes check out with mine. What I meant was simple and the poitn was missed probably in my verbosity. I know you'll be watching for pointers. Just dont say anything while we'er playing that reminds me of that. That's all. I'm just trying to keep my play as au naturale as possible so you have plenty to give feedback on later. I just know myself and if that comes into conversation at all it'll throw me off.

 

But by all means. Analyze. And we can compare notes. S ofar it looks like we pretty much have the same notes. Gave up on bluffing Taff the day I got called down and won holding AK high.

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So, last week's session was so embarrassing and frustrating that I didn't even end up posting here about it – though I did write on my own.

 

I felt better about my game at the start. I pulled off a light three bet, recognized a good barrelling flop and turn, and fired both to win the pot. At this game it is VERY hard to get people to fold to any of my bets (my image is beyond terrible) so I felt good about that one. It was one of the trickier players, which, ironically, is I'm sure the reason it worked.

 

But then it happened again – I took a decision and did not have a complete thought process around it, and called my way out of the tournament (such an embarrasing way to go)

 

It was subfocused that KO'ed me, and I leveled myself out of the tournament based on this very thread. It's not his fault at all. I had 99. Blinds 100/200. Mortal sin committed: I did not know my stack size.. I thought I was off my a little… I was off by a LOT. two people limped ahead of me so I 3bet with the nines, then subfocused shoved all in behind.

 

Online or generally in poker that wuold elicit a fold from me with that hand. But I started down this road to dumbasstown in my thought process. “He knows I'm 3betting more lightly because we talked about it.” “He probably thinks I'm 3betiting with something worse than nines this time.” “His over-shove here looks like Ace-King”. “I have seen this guy shove all in with 10-6, J-4, all in spots where I expected him to show up good.”

 

Every thought that went thru my head, I didnt realkize to later, was all in service of a poor decision. I felt that I was committed by the 550 raise I had made, but i had thousands and thousands behind. Since sub was deep stacked and I have a weak/nitty image I thought a steal attempt was possible.

 

But he flipped over KK and gg me, except not really, because gg implies good game. Bad game. Bad!

 

I have to admit there was a major mental game backstory going on. I was constantly having to deal with texts from my wife, who was having her montly visitor-  something that's made much worse than her epilepsy and she was all over the map emotionally all day. In addition to the regular stress, she and i BOTH found out we need surgery that week – I have to have my femur repair completely redone, and she needs surgery to fix the irregularity in her temporal lobe.

 

That's TLDR TMI right now, but the point is before the game I had this feeling “This is not a great idea tonight, Heath.” But I went and played anyway. And I'm a player who almost never rebuys in rebuy tournaments where there's only a few levels that offer it. This time i rebought to the max and then threw awaay my chips with 99.

 

I did win $240 in the cash game though, which mad eup for my $120 tournament buy ins. lol such a donkey am i.

 

Anyway I have since reviewed a LOT of Tendler.   i am stuck right now on the idea that out of, say, 200 hands in a tournament (completely arbitrary number), I can play 199 optimally and still be broken even or behind, or i could be way up, but one mistake is often all it takes to kill my dreams completely.

 

part of this is due to over betting. sub asked me to work on bet sizing last time – i did a very good job of that… until he shipped on me with the kings. then i over-called to an insane degree.

 

this week my mind is clear and i'm about to do a session of transcendental mediatation (my winning sessions always seem to start with one).  I have to avoid feeling tilted and embarrassed for playing poorly. I just need to remember that serves my image and when I adjust and play properly I will get action on my value bets that most people don't get.

 

But that's perfect world thinking .. at very least I am going to strive to be more aggressive, to continue to focus on the bet/fold as a winning tactic, do what I do in cash and take pokes over and over until someone has to give up.

 

a long way to go … LONG way to go. but even though my opponents probably don't even realize it yet… I'm learning from each one of these mistakes… I woldn't be if it weren't for the advice i've received on TPE. I have to say most of the writing about my sessions I do is private – especially with sub on this forum, I don't want to give away EVERYHING – but it's been unbelievably helpful as far as thought organization and reliving the thought process later on.

 

deep stack no rebuy game tonight. i prefer that. .. go big or go home. Aspade

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Hey, congrats for working through so much of what you need to address.   Sometimes just figuring out what your problem is can be a larger hurdle than fixing it.

 

Keep it up!

 

(Minus the cracks about whar housewives watch these days – I'm the wife and my hubby doesn't play.  Lol.)

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