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Too attached to chips when I put them in the middle
Buttmunch16
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September 26, 2011 - 8:00 pm
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Anyone else suffer from the same problem?

 

Basically it usually appears with pocket pairs or AK and on similar flops:

 

For my pocket pairs if there is only one over and I start putting chips in when I get re-raised I find it hard not to spew shove and with AK if I whiff and I cbet and get raised I find it hard to walk away – it is usually after I have worked hard building a stack to the 18k – 25k range and I find it hard to put chips in and drop down to 12 – 18k from where I was and walk away?

 

Anyone suffer from this or have a solution or a bit of help?

 

Cheers

 

BM

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September 28, 2011 - 10:37 pm
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I hear ya man. I think I can safely say, most of us to some extent suffer from this problem. I know I do, but have been getting better at it. Since joining TPE, one of my greatest additions to my game is folding, even after as you say putting a fair bit of your stack in the middle.

 

Of course it all depends on the player and table dynamics and what sort of read you have on a particular player. But I know my reads have gotton a lot better.

 

You just have to be diciplined enough, swallow your pride, and if your read is your beat, then just fold. Hurts big time, really does, but if your beat your beat.  Sure, sometimes they flash their cards to show you their big bluff, but so be it. We all bluff, sometimes we get caught and sometimes we don't.

 

I've started to trust my reads and lines and “table/player dynamics instinct” a bit more than I use too. How many times I've put a player on range or even an exact hand, because of the line taken, but my stubbornness and pride makes me shove or call knowing I'm probably beat and sure enough more often than not I'm beat. Well now if my read and line taken tells me I'm more than likely beat  then I fold no matter how much I've put in the middle. If my read and line taken tells me that I am more than likely ahead, then I will shove or raise with an overcard on the board.

 

You have to drop your pride/ego and let the line and read make your decision. Of course you have to also play a hand so that you're not committed to calling your stack off if you know you are probably beat. Your skill in bet sizing, stack sizes, pot control, tournament dynamics etc will determine how good you are at that.

 

hawkeyeK9
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September 29, 2011 - 1:28 pm
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Key to being a good player is to not get attached to your hands or to your chips in the middle. A good player has to be able to make a lot of good folds and then the rest of the time getting extreme value when you got it. 

The best way to fix that problem is to constantly remind yourself throughout your sessions to not give away any free chips and to not get married to hands (essentially talk to yourself smile). When you get a big hand, remind yourself that it is not always the nuts. Play the players, not your hands.

Dare2Dream
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November 29, 2011 - 2:00 am
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I will respond to this in the next few days and sorry for any inconvenience not being on here may have caused.

 

JG

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December 5, 2011 - 10:33 pm
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Some good advice from the crew above!

So what if you stuck your chips in the middle when whiffed a flop with AK and get the 10s to call you, you spike a A on the river, how are you going to feel? What are you going to think?

To become the best player you can be, at times we all have to swallow our pride or fold cards that we dont want to fold. This is one of the areas I put in the 1%s that players need to focus on too maximise their potential. This is also an area that you need to be ready for before you can begin working on it.

You should focus on the 1%s once you have built a fundamentally strong technical and mental game.

I am interested in hearing your feedback on where you think your game is in comparison to these 1%s?

Good Luck!

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