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AA facing a river shove wcoop

Sjetan112

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September 11, 2011 - 11:05 am

Villain has been pretty tight (13/11) but the tournament has just started. his officialpokerrankings shows he's a profitable player. what do you guys think how I played this hand and what to do on the river?

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t30.00/t60.00 Blinds – 9 playersDeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
lw2288 (CO): t10152.00 169.20 BBsTeamTrousers (BTN): t9840.00 164 BBsatamss (SB): t10930.00 182.17 BBsHero (BB): t9493.00 158.22 BBsnikitakurgan (UTG): t13450.00 224.17 BBsalexandru850 (UTG+1): t8697.00 144.95 BBsDimstone (UTG+2): t7861.00 131.02 BBsPhaseone86 (MP1): t6377.00 106.28 BBstripin88 (MP2): t13275.00 221.25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BB with A club A diamond 2 folds, Dimstone raises to t180, 5 folds, Hero raises to t480, Dimstone calls t300

Flop: (t990) 8 heart 7 spade 4 club (2 players)Hero bets t660.00, Dimstone calls t660

Turn: (t2310) 6 diamond (2 players)Hero bets t1620.00, Dimstone calls t1620

River: (t5550) 9 spade (2 players)Hero checks,Dimstone bets t5101.00 (allin), Hero ??

rlamanna

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September 11, 2011 - 2:47 pm

Gotta love spots like these. He's obviously polarized. However, I don't know what he shoves for value. It's so early that I could find a fold here, but unless there are reads, you may very well be good. Spots like this are sick, but there's no need to go broke here.

Donskey

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September 12, 2011 - 12:55 am

Sick spot.

I think we can rule out high pairs as he did not 4 bet pre flop. So what do you beat. As stated in previous post, he either got there or he has air. Gutsy bluff so early in the tourney, so I would rule that out.

All mid pairs got there which makes sense on his range from an open then calling your 3 bet. Either a set or the straight. Tens maybe. I think this is an easy fold, no need to go broke so early and deep. If he bluffed you, congrates to him. What can you say.

cousteer

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September 12, 2011 - 2:44 am

A hard fold… but i think in this case you have to pitch 'em … smells like your beaten. Against a tight, profitable villian, early in the tourny, likely set, possible straight, my inclination would be to stay alive and get him next time.

Sjetan112

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September 12, 2011 - 6:05 am

ye, sick spot indeed but what do you guys think of my betsizing and river check ?

hawkeyeK9

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September 15, 2011 - 1:38 pm

Sjetan112 said:

ye, sick spot indeed but what do you guys think of my betsizing and river check ?

Bet sizing is on the bigger side. I think you can accomplish a lot of the same things with a lot smaller bets and reap other benefits. You actually get more value with smaller bets because you can get called lighter, you get folds almost as often, and you get information without compromising your stack. It can be bettter for so many reasons. Everyone has there own style though and you gotta do what you feel the most comfortable with.

rivermen123

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September 15, 2011 - 2:54 pm

I think the betsizing is on the large side of OK, with these stack sizes.

His river shove is probably 55 or 98 (flops top pair, binks two pair, and gets real excited, thinking you probably have an overpair?). Think he makes a smaller value bet with a set.

I've definitely made this play with sets before against someone I think will look me up with an overpair. Actually learned this play from watching HITTHEPANDA. smile

There's no way AA is good here. I don't think he's bluff shoving this river, especially in a WCOOP. It's too early. Your check is OK.

KingBustYou

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September 19, 2011 - 8:52 am

agree w big betsizing and I'd always fold here. you just have a bluffcatcher and for 85bb it's way too much/risky.

dont think you're 3bet pre is too small, both being this deep it wouldnt matter if you'd made it 400, 450, 500 or even 550

gavalaaaar

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September 21, 2011 - 1:10 pm

Maybe a bizarre line but can you find a check on the turn to see how he reacts. He obviously likes his hand with the flat pre and post flop. If he checks back on the turn a check call on the river although not getting max value gets you to showdown cheaply, keeping the pot smaller and without spewing many chips so early in the tourney. The way you played it the check on the river looks weak and scared of the board.seen as the board is so co-ordinated it is an easy allbeit gutsy bluff spot for the villain.

What do you think?