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Advice on playing weak live tournaments
Kilco53
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September 15, 2017 - 7:34 am
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First post for me on TPE so any advice is greatly appreciated.

I play in a weekly £10 + £4 tournament which normal has around 30 runners and is very soft.

You get a 3,000 starting stack with 25/50 blinds with 15 minute per level for the first 6 levels and 20 minute blinds after that. 

There are unlimited rebuys for the first 6 levels, and at the end of level 6 you have the option to double add-on 6,000 chips for £10.

 

My main question is whether the best tactic is to buy in at the first level, or late register for £24 and start with 9,000 chips which is 18BB at level 7.

 

The reason I ask this is because I usually buy-in at the start and play tight, waiting for good hands and playing solidly. However, the variance at these levels is so high because people refuse to fold draws or marginal hands so suck outs happen all the time. I know this is a good situation for me to be in, but if you get knocked out around level 5, your 3,000 chip rebuy would only get you 10BB so you’re into shove or fold.

 

Do you think it is better to pay £24 for and 18BB starting stack on level 7 where the are longer blind levels and play tends to be more straightforward here as you can no longer rebuy?

 

Thanks!!

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I think if you feel like you have edge over these players I would play from the start. There are a lot of sweet value spots which can come up and you can skyrocket your stack pretty high if you run into some crazy rebuy guy who gets tilted. Lets be real it much easier to close poker client and go to something else rather than getting up your seat and going home from the casino.

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If they’re calling with draws they shouldn’t, they’re giving you money.

You’re going to lose sometimes when you get it in pre with aces, you’re not avoiding that spot because of a potential suck out

I’d probably bluff less and make some large value bets. In my experience these types of players are willing to get their stacks in on the turn with nothing but a flush draw. As the blinds increase you’ll have the stack size to force them to get it in or fold.

 

Suckouts happen, what matters is making the right play and over enough games you’ll come out ahead. Try to forget about them.

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I agree that buying in from the start is the most profitable approach (especially in soft games), with one important caveat.

If you are approaching the game as more than a hobby, and your bankroll is < 1500£ (much bigger ideally), you have a surprisingly high risk of ruin from loose rebuy tourneys. If you are pushing most of the edges that you should against this kind of field, it would not be rare to sink 7+ buyins over 90 minutes when the cards don’t fall your way. Risking >=5% of your bankroll in any one tourney is very ambitious (I like to keep it below 0.5% usually), and MTT variance has busted many very talented players out of the game.

If you are comfortable playing a short-stack, there is nothing wrong with dropping 24£ to play from lvl 7 onward. I’ve occasionally taken the same approach to online rebuys, and its much like joining a freeze-out nearing the end of late registration. You’ll have a lot of short games, but if less risk keeps you in poker longer and/or with less stress, you’ll realize your edge more reliably than if a downswing forces you to take a hiatus.

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Your biggest edge in rebuy tournaments is to avoiding punting off a bunch of buyins. I would buy in for the max at the beginning to maximize your edge, but recognize that you’re incentivized not to just get into a bunch of random flips in the early levels, since the structure is likely to be so terrible that your edge with a big stack is going to rapidly dwindle anyway, and if the cost is doubling or tripling your tournament buyin, you’re cutting your ROI in half or in thirds.

I’m not averse to late regging events like this for the max. There will be a ton of dead money in the prize pool by the time you do. I think a lot of it depends on how good you actually are compared to the field – they might be punting it off a lot, but if you’re hoping to build a stack through winning flips and 70/30s rather than manifesting a postflop edge, then you might be better off taking the late-reg strategy.

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My advice would be to avoid such a poorly structured tournament at all costs.

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TightlyWound said
My advice would be to avoid such a poorly structured tournament at all costs.  

This is also pretty solid advice!

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