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September 20, 2016
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hey TPE nation,
first strategy post. sorry if its rough.
seen villain raise UTG/UTG+1 with a suited Kx and a suited connectors prior to this hand. The UTG raise was higher than his previous but I was thinking since I’m in position and with a bigger stack, I can see the flop and hope to catch a monster. On the turn when I bet 14BB, i meant to just shove him there but hit my 60%button instead. I think after the diamond on the turn, I should be shoving him. I calculated net ev of a shove was 21813 but not sure if this is right since i’m still trying to get the hang of studying hands.
should i not have called preflop given his HUD stats? I put him on K10s+ but should I have narrowed my range even more given that it was UTG?
PokerStars – 500/1000 Ante 125 NL – Holdem – 8 players
MP+1: 21.48 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 33)
Hero (CO): 48.13 BB
BTN: 14.85 BB (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 23)
SB: 33.67 BB (VPIP: 37.14, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 35)
BB: 11.64 BB (VPIP: 13.98, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 93)
UTG: 28.59 BB (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 10.14, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 81)
UTG+1: 7.33 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 20.07 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has A
Q
UTG raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold
Flop: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Q 3
UTG bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Turn: (23.5 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG checks, Hero bets 14 BB, UTG raises to 17.96 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 3.96 BB
River: (59.42 BB, 2 players) 6
UTG wins 59.42 BB
thanks for any help.
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August 25, 2012
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Preflop is probably the toughest part here. Since you’ve seen him being pretty aggro I think that cancels out the massive raise sizing to some extent. Sort of tough to have a flatting range there but this is one of the best hands to do it with if you’re going to flat anything.
On flop, I think calling vs raising is close but calling is probably better. Turn is very straightforward, nothing you can do differently. Overall, I’d say preflop is a weird spot and kind of marginal, but otherwise, nice hand.
September 20, 2016
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theginger45 said
Preflop is probably the toughest part here. Since you’ve seen him being pretty aggro I think that cancels out the massive raise sizing to some extent. Sort of tough to have a flatting range there but this is one of the best hands to do it with if you’re going to flat anything.On flop, I think calling vs raising is close but calling is probably better. Turn is very straightforward, nothing you can do differently. Overall, I’d say preflop is a weird spot and kind of marginal, but otherwise, nice hand.
he ended up having kings. thank you very much for the reply man.
February 20, 2015
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Were his previous UTG/UTG+1 hands also 4-5x raises?
A 14/10 player raising hands such as those might not be taking position into consideration enough. 81 hands isn’t a ton, though.
In addition, agree with Matt’s comments. I’m assuming if checked to on flop that checking behind is correct because he’s unlikely to have a draw, and only better hands would call.
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August 25, 2012
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joelshitshow said
Were his previous UTG/UTG+1 hands also 4-5x raises?A 14/10 player raising hands such as those might not be taking position into consideration enough. 81 hands isn’t a ton, though.
In addition, agree with Matt’s comments. I’m assuming if checked to on flop that checking behind is correct because he’s unlikely to have a draw, and only better hands would call.
Definitely disagree with this last part, actually. If you’re checked to on flop there’s a minimal chance of you being behind, since villain’s preflop sizing indicates a tendency to play big hands quite fast, and thus if they had an overpair on this flop I think there’s a close to 100% chance they would bet it.
In terms of worse hands that would call a flop bet, I definitely think you can get one street out of 99-JJ at least. That’s not necessarily to say that checking behind the flop is worse than betting – it might not be if we gain extra value on the turn by doing so – but it’s so unlikely that we’re behind when villain checks the flop that it’s not necessary to assume we only get called by better when we bet the flop. We might get a lot of folds, but if we do get called it’s going to be by a worse hand probably >90% of the time.
February 20, 2015
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“We might get a lot of folds, but if we do get called it’s going to be by a worse hand probably >90% of the time.”
I need to spend more time thinking about how people decide when to float. I’ve gotten better at calling with a wider range on the flop (mostly pocket pairs with 1 overcard on flop), but I think I’m projecting this tightness onto opponents, who are much more likely to call than I would have.
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