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big55 20left, 39BB facing huge squeeze
florianm1
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June 12, 2013 - 9:01 pm
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following hand occured in the big55 with 20left. i was pretty much running over the table.

previous hand i lost 15BB in 3bet pot with 88 on AAAK5 vs zaxman13s JJ

 

my stats at this table are 42/35, J4Goldenboy is 31/20 and pleasepick is 31/25 with 15.4% 3bet.

 

whats your line?

 

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t3600/t7200 Blinds + t900 – 7 players – View hand 2236535
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edenaarling (MP): BB = 24.2, t174246
kabutze (CO): BB = 64.1, t461356
zaxman13 (BTN): BB = 77.8, t559842
J4GoldenBoy (SB): BB = 44.5, t320149
pleasepick (BB): BB = 59.9, t431139
knightll (UTG): BB = 13.4, t96584
Hero (UTG+1): BB = 39.1, t281568

Pre Flop: (t17100) Hero is UTG+1 with Q of clubs A of diamonds
1 fold, Hero raises to t14400, 3 folds, J4GoldenBoy calls t10800, pleasepick raises to t53000, Hero ???

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June 13, 2013 - 1:44 am
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Just folding vs that sizing(3.8x) but not liking it. Probably GII if we were HJ-, definitely CO. He is committed vs SB so he can't have total air.

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June 13, 2013 - 9:00 pm
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Stick it in. With those stats im sure this player is more than capable of squezeing since your so active.

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June 14, 2013 - 8:37 am
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Yeah I think I'm just piling as well; his sizing is pretty scary though, like I guess if you have seen him make smaller 3-bets then fold to 4-bets, or make a big 3-bet like this before and show down AK or something folding is fine, but if you don't really have any read on the sizing, I think just assuming that he's making a larger 3-bet due to the sb calling and the fact that you're pretty deep is fine. Also I guess from his perspective he may make it a bit larger to kinda force you to shove or fold rather than be able to call or 4-bet/f.

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I think i would take the chance and shove the AQo. If I make up such a loose maniac image at table, i have to call lighter, if ppl push

The fact, pleasepick has 15% 3bet stats makes it easier to shove for me. But im not 100% sure, if my thoughts are the best. But with 42/35 stats i would expect others gonna 3bet&jam much looser vs me. And i dont think pleasepick expects you to have such a good hand like AQo here. I think in most time ull be facing a flip here, and sometimes he really has AK there.

Other possible move would be to call his 3bet, and just 3bet-shove his cbet on any flop. On flop there would be a 130k pot and u would have 230k behind after the preflop call. He cbets 50-70k, and u got a perfect stack to shove his cbet.

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Didn't take a good enough look at the HUD stats you provided. With numbers like those, 4b jamming becomes reasonable. I haven't tried what p1kZor suggested, but it could win you more chips. While you may win another CB from his bluffs, you may allow some of them to catch up or beat you. Jamming is much safer than playing a flop.

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It seems like you can 4bet to induce given the absurd dynamic. You have the nuts. If he hoods your 4bet, I think you can just jam flop. 4bet jam is OK too since you're going to be OOP. Just don't fold pre.

As the late Dana Gordon may have said, 111111/CALL WTF.

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It seems like you can 4bet to induce given the absurd dynamic. You have the nuts. If he hoods your 4bet, I think you can just jam flop. 4bet jam is OK too since you’re going to be OOP. Just don’t fold pre.

As the late Dana Gordon may have said, 111111/CALL WTF.

i was more on the swiss 96969 and callt his shove

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