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calling all in with 99 5 way in the 33 bounty builder

Zhuge liang

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May 1, 2017 - 2:54 am

I folded 99 in the big blind here with four all ins in front of me. I was newish to the table but had seen utg+1 bounty hunting pretty aggressively already. Given the stack sizes I’m wondering if you guys think we can justify a call here knowing we are way ahead of the utg +1 range and will likely collect a significant side pot and hope to bink? Went on to win the tourney but maybe this was a nitty fold?

PokerStars – 250/500 Ante 80 NL – Holdem – 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN (BTN): 13.42 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 6)
SB (SB): 7.54 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
Hero (BB): 55.66 BB
UTG (UTG): 9.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG+1 (UTG+1): 79.62 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP (MP): 24.13 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1 (MP+1): 20.36 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+2 (MP+2): 49.49 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO (CO): 6.06 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

9 players post ante of 0.16 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Dealt to Hero:
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UTG raises to 9.24 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 raises to 79.46 BB and is all-in, MP calls 23.97 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, CO calls 5.9 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold

Flop (66.03 BB, 4 players):
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Turn (66.03 BB, 4 players):
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River (66.03 BB, 4 players):
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Hero mucks:
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(Three of a Kind, Nines)

UTG+1 shows:
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(One Pair, Sixes)
Main Pot [26.53 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
Side Pot#1 [10.03 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
Side Pot#2 [29.47 BB]: (Pre 21%, Flop 13%, Turn 26%)

MP shows:
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(One Pair, Queens)
Main Pot [26.53 BB]: (Pre 42%, Flop 6%, Turn 3%)
Side Pot#1 [10.03 BB]: (Pre 57%, Flop 46%, Turn 47%)
Side Pot#2 [29.47 BB]: (Pre 79%, Flop 87%, Turn 74%)

UTG shows:
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(One Pair, Sevens)
Main Pot [26.53 BB]: (Pre 14%, Flop 40%, Turn 29%)
Side Pot#1 [10.03 BB]: (Pre 24%, Flop 47%, Turn 34%)

CO shows:
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(One Pair, Kings)
Main Pot [26.53 BB]: (Pre 27%, Flop 48%, Turn 50%)

MP wins 39.49 BB

CO wins 26.53 BB

Killingbird

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May 1, 2017 - 2:58 pm

I don’t think calling here can ever really be good. Even when we do not run in to bigger pairs (which I think we are going to a huge percentage of the time) we are going to have to fade 3-4 overcards. I’d fold.

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May 1, 2017 - 3:40 pm

I think it is a really bad call, utg1 is shoving 79bbs, and there is players behind with 50bb, mp is calling that massive shove, to me is a scary call for 99.

To me you are being results oriented because there was a 9 otf

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May 5, 2017 - 11:43 am

In a non-bounty this is a snap-fold (obviously) but I actually think this is pretty close, if not potentially completely fine, in a bounty builder.

There are three bounties in the pot already if you win, plus the only guy who has you covered likely has a wide enough range for you to have very good equity. Those two factors mean that your EV here might actually be very high.

Since we’re at 250/500 and the bounties are likely bigger than starting bounties, I think there’s a good chance that this is a call. It does matter how big those bounties are – if one of them is really big (let’s say 10x starting bounty) then you can never fold here.

People massively, massively underestimate the importance of bounties in these events. There’s a chance that if the bounties are big enough here, calling and winning makes you enough in $EV that you’ve effectively cashed the tournament already, which is a massive bump in ROI, even if it only happens 20% of the time.

Additionally, if you win and end up with a monster stack of >100bb, you have tons more bounty opportunities. Bounty builder events are ridiculously top heavy, and thus we should be happy making high-variance plays, and focusing heavily on building a big stack that can bust other players and pick up more bounties. Making the FT just doesn’t matter that much in comparison.

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