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Flopped btm Set, get shoved over...
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July 15, 2010 - 12:40 am
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There was about 250 ppl left in this $26Mtt. 135 cashed.

 

Full Tilt Poker $28,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold’em Tournament – t250/t500 Blinds + t50 – 8 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

rickybo (UTG+1): BB = 23.1, t11570
phareal15 (MP1): BB = 36.0, t17988
RODnHawk (MP2): BB = 22.9, t11453
Ignatius101 (CO): BB = 33.9, t16956
codz1981 (BTN): BB = 26.3, t13146
MASTRODAMUS (SB): BB = 4.1, t2054
aaa3001 (BB): BB = 20.1, t10048
donkmasterg (UTG): BB = 21.9, t10970

Pre Flop: (t1150) phareal15 is MP1 with 7[Image Can Not Be Found] 7[Image Can Not Be Found]
2 folds, phareal15 raises to t1155, 1 fold, Ignatius101 calls t1155, codz1981 calls t1155, 2 folds

Flop: (t4615) 7[Image Can Not Be Found] 8[Image Can Not Be Found] J[Image Can Not Be Found] (3 players)
phareal15 bets t2545, Ignatius101 raises to t15751 all in, codz1981 folds

phareal15?????

Is this almost always an automatic call?

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Hard to fold a set on a board like this considering he could have so many draws the only thing that we are really drawing dead to is 88/JJ..9T we have outs I wouldnt think he has an overpair. So its a draw  we are racing or he has us crushed. This may be a fold and a big one at that. I would probably call but I honestly think you may be behind already.

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July 15, 2010 - 2:16 am
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pretty gross spot, but i dont think we can fold on a board this drawy. i think we have to get it in and pray for no spades!

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July 15, 2010 - 8:07 am
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How is my preflop and flop bet sizing?

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Preflop looks fine….the flop looks like you pot it. It depends on what your trying to do. If you want him to come over the top so you can ship it bet a little less than half pot if you think he will spaz. Since its a draw heavy board I like 2/3 to pot bet size.

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July 15, 2010 - 11:07 am
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Na, I didnt pot it. The pot was 4615 and I was 1st to act and bet out 2545.

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July 15, 2010 - 11:28 am
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OK I may have bet more on the flop then its like the your bet would be raised often by a draw. That being said I think I have to get it in.

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I’m never folding here. It looks like he’s shoving a draw, tbh. Did he tank shove or just instantly cram it in the middle?

Can’t imagine a flopped straight jams here. If he has 88 or JJ (JJ shouldn’t flat pre) say nh and move on.

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July 15, 2010 - 12:31 pm
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Same. Never folding here. Unless he has 9 10 you have the best hand right now (JJ re-raises pre so I guess that leaves 88 as the only other possible hand you are losing to right now) There are so many other combos of hands that you have crushed. Easy call for me.

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July 15, 2010 - 12:41 pm
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I shove on flop and pray for board to pair

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nayrB said:

I shove on flop and pray for board to pair


Wait. You’re saying you just open jam the flop? 

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July 15, 2010 - 11:36 pm
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PF is fine. Flop is too small though considering such a drawy texture and it’s 3-way.

 

I hate being the guy who is like “OMG YOU HAZ A SET YOU CAN’T FOLD!” but with just over 30BB i honestly don’t think you could even come up with any sort of reasonable set of assumptions under which this could ever be a fold.

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July 16, 2010 - 2:41 am
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OK thanks for all the responses. I obv felt like he was on a big draw, so I called.

He turned over JJ for top set. Crushed me. I guess his preflop flat just wierded me out and I deff wasnt thinking JJ.

This was my first HH post on here, but hopefully I have a lot more good ones to come.

Thanks again tho.

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Looking at that board and I hear is it screaming HUGE draw to me, with a set I would have looked to try to extract everything I could from him. His weird line with the Jacks pre-flop would have caused that hand to never enter my mind and the odds that 88 was out there as well probably wouldn’t have entered in either. I would have quickly called feeling pretty good only to smack into that wall and be pretty pissed. Sick spot.

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