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Folding AA to 1 bet on the flop?
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July 24, 2010 - 3:49 pm
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PokerStars Game #47212491755: Tournament #292816773, $25.00+$2.50 USD Hold'em No Limit – Level III (15/30) – 2010/07/24 15:44:34 ET
Table '292816773 11' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Alv3rine (6112 in chips)
Seat 2: Hexer99 (3182 in chips)
Seat 4: SFpwnt (2751 in chips)
Seat 5: traviz12 (3093 in chips)
Seat 6: Wijnos (2573 in chips)
Seat 7: zetor52 (5701 in chips)
Seat 8: Provac (1236 in chips)
Seat 9: Chabz2001 (2604 in chips)
Alv3rine: posts the ante 6
Hexer99: posts the ante 6
SFpwnt: posts the ante 6
traviz12: posts the ante 6
Wijnos: posts the ante 6
zetor52: posts the ante 6
Provac: posts the ante 6
Chabz2001: posts the ante 6
traviz12: posts small blind 15
Wijnos: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SFpwnt [Ah As]
zetor52: calls 30
Provac: calls 30
Chabz2001: folds
Alv3rine: folds
Hexer99: folds
SFpwnt: raises 105 to 135
traviz12: folds
Wijnos: folds
zetor52: calls 105
Provac: calls 105
*** FLOP *** [Qs Jh Kh]
themysterykm is connected
zetor52: bets 300
Provac: calls 300
SFpwnt: folds

 

too nitty?

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July 24, 2010 - 4:19 pm
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waaaayy too nitty   You have a back door not only to a nut flush but a royal and a T come you have the nuts.

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July 24, 2010 - 4:29 pm
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OK but what range of hands limps UTG pre and UTG +1 pre and then both flat then lead for ~pot on that flop and call flop that I am ahead of?

 

I cannot think of 1 hand

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July 24, 2010 - 5:46 pm
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Ok didnt realize your so short…..ya you could fold although it sucks because you have a ton of outs that improve your hand. I think your ahead of the short stack but probably not the big stack.

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July 24, 2010 - 7:01 pm
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SFpwnt said:

OK but what range of hands limps UTG pre and UTG +1 pre and then both flat then lead for ~pot on that flop and call flop that I am ahead of?

 

I cannot think of 1 hand


 

k6 offsuit.

people are bad.

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July 25, 2010 - 12:06 am
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90 bbs isnt short.i  like seeing the turn here

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July 25, 2010 - 2:22 am
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ttwist said:

90 bbs isnt short.i  like seeing the turn here


oh for some reason I thought it was 50/100…..yea I would see the turn

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At this point I am liking my hand and the potential it has to turn into a monster. I think in this case you can call the flop as some reasonable percentage of the time (20-30%) you are probably going to see the river for free as the turn gets checked down. Although this flop tends to hit randoms a lot of the time (KQ, KJ, AQ, AJ, AT, suited connectors, suited one-gappers for FD) you can get past the flop bet since you are still pretty deep and see what happens. I don't think I would like my hand anymore if I called and didn't improve on the turn and had to deal with a bet there. All in all, I don't see folding the flop, but I can see a pretty good argument for check-folding the turn if I don't improve.

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As stated, fodling the flop is way too nitty. You have backdoors to incredibly strong hands and are plenty deep. Many hand will lead that you are ahead of…and kx or qx. Even if you are up against a made straight, still have enough equity in the hand to see a turn card.

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