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tzahi2008
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July 29, 2010 - 7:35 pm
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agressive table

lilweeeeeezy was very agrresive and 3bet me a lot

 

PokerStars Game #47450176887: Tournament #323010444, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit – Level XXI (3500/7000) – 2010/07/30 1:34:42 EET [2010/07/29 18:34:42 ET]
Table '323010444 25' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: MaRtO2000 (192191 in chips) 
Seat 3: MrDennyCrane (143105 in chips) 
Seat 4: Tmplr (590421 in chips) 
Seat 5: manumelk (205120 in chips) 
Seat 6: pezi2000 (99906 in chips) 
Seat 7: tylen (68310 in chips) 
Seat 8: tzahi2008 (245682 in chips) 
Seat 9: lilweeeeeezy (264265 in chips) 
MaRtO2000: posts the ante 700
MrDennyCrane: posts the ante 700
Tmplr: posts the ante 700
manumelk: posts the ante 700
pezi2000: posts the ante 700
tylen: posts the ante 700
tzahi2008: posts the ante 700
lilweeeeeezy: posts the ante 700
pezi2000: posts small blind 3500
tylen: posts big blind 7000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tzahi2008 [Qs Qh]
tzahi2008: raises 9985 to 16985
lilweeeeeezy: raises 23015 to 40000
MaRtO2000: folds 
MrDennyCrane: raises 102405 to 142405 and is all-in
Tmplr: folds 
manumelk: folds 
pezi2000: folds 
tylen: folds 
tzahi2008: ???
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July 29, 2010 - 8:22 pm
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lol I am TMPLR

 

It's a really tough spot. I know the outcome and it's sick spot.

 

I dont think folding is ever bad here considering ICM

 

I wouldh ave mucked with this stacksize.

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July 30, 2010 - 9:40 am
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oh hi there 🙂

yeah was a tough one. was ment to fold and than i change my mind. 🙁

 

nice score BTW!

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I am folding here big time. The three bet is fine give the read, I think you have some ability to manuever there given your read/history with the player. The shove by MrDennyCrane is the biggest concern I have. He say someone raise (not sure how aggro you have been), a 3bet which could be light, but you know that too so to 4bet shove is screaming that he has a huge hand that he doesn't care what the two of you are packing. The shove feels a lot like KK, AA, AK (maybe AQs, but I think that is a pretty small chance). I would fold the ladies, not be happy about it, but wait till the next hand.

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I don't know if it's as easy as that, Les.

Pur yourself in OP's shoes. You're getting 3 bet a shit ton by lilweeeeeezy already and then some dude with 20 bigs jams and you're looking at QQ.

You know weezy could be FOS. If the jammer has been paying attention and noticing that weezy is 3 betting light, he could be jamming a lot of pairs we crush. Obv. AA, KK, and AK are also in his range but I think 88-JJ is, too. AQ and AJs could be as well.

It's really tough to find the fold button here. Knowing it's the FT and no one wants to bust 9th I think we can make a hero fold. Still tough, though.

Like SittingDucks says ICM makes it a fold but I'd be so tempted to re-shove here.

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July 30, 2010 - 11:47 am
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FkCoolers said:

I don't know if it's as easy as that, Les.

Pur yourself in OP's shoes. You're getting 3 bet a shit ton by lilweeeeeezy already and then some dude with 20 bigs jams and you're looking at QQ.

You know weezy could be FOS. If the jammer has been paying attention and noticing that weezy 3 is 3 betting light, he could be jamming a lot of pairs we crush.

It's really tough to find the fold button here. Knowing it's the FT and no one wants to bust 9th I think we can make a hero fold. Still tough, though.

Like SittingDucks says ICM makes it a fold but I'd be so tempted to re-shove here.


 

I hear you, I hate having to fold the QQ here, but that 4bet shove screams a lot like “I'm pissed that you are picking on me and now I am going to make you pay”. Since calling MrDennyCrane costs me 50% of my stack I think it cripples me if I screw this up and get caught up in this pissing contest. This situation would piss me off to no end (especially if the resultant action didn't get to showdown) and probably tilt me pretty good at this point. Analytically I think the fold is the best play, but I agree I am having enough Hero in me to actually pull that trigger is going to be rough. It could be that I am being way to conservative in my position since I haven't seen a lot of final table situations (or any at this point).  

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I'm agreeing with FKCOOLERS, if MrDennyCrane has been paying attention and sees that ilweeeeeezy has been 3-betting light, his range is alot bigger.  I am assuming that when ilweeeeeezy has been 3-betting you, you have folded.  If that's the case, then MrDennyCrane is thinking your going to fold again and only has to worry about the light 3-bet.  I'd get my chips in.

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July 30, 2010 - 1:01 pm
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yeah I think with icm its pretty close but this is a 109 and people will adjust so I get it in and would not think it was bad if you ran into kk or aa

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July 31, 2010 - 10:13 pm
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Hey guys! weezy here.  Looks like TPE was reppin tough at this FT 🙂  Sick hand.. don't think I'm 3bettin u light too much in these positions but even still I don't think you can fold. Cooler. Oh and TMPLR IS A SICKO. GG all.

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July 31, 2010 - 11:10 pm
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Haha this is nuts, TPE is taking over the world, but this is so close I really can't commit.  In the end i think i get it all in here, flop quads, and move on.

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July 31, 2010 - 11:35 pm
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lol 3 of you are members?  that's hilarious.

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Yea this is pretty sick

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August 1, 2010 - 4:18 am
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so, what WAS the outcome? Yell

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August 1, 2010 - 8:34 am
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KK for weeezey

AK for the other dude who instashoved with no fold equity (what was btw not mentioned by TS but yet quite important)

QQ for mr 2008

 

KK won GG

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August 1, 2010 - 11:23 am
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It would be so freaking awesome if someone of the pro's would replay and analyse this final table, wouldnt it be? Since we have 3 hand histories, we could merge them and voila, we would have a sick sick video with3 members.

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August 1, 2010 - 12:00 pm
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U just want ppl to see the hand u called me down 3 streets w/ KQ high..

kbor
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also it would be a good lesson on how to take advantage of non-english speakers while chopping.

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bump

 

for no reason

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November 20, 2010 - 10:29 am
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wow forgot about this.  If the three of you can send me your HHs I can make this a video from one of the pros.

 

If one of you don't want your HHs revealed we'd understand and nix the idea.

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November 20, 2010 - 10:56 am
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For me it will need quite an effort to retrieve those HH, so if it's okey I want to wait till it is sure that the other two have the HH too 🙂

kbor
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November 20, 2010 - 11:10 am
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pretty sure i can dig up this hh

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November 20, 2010 - 11:19 am
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That is a pretty sick spot….i would probably puke fold only because lilweezy is left to act.

 

Awsome final table for you three guys! Congrats

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