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FT 8 left Shove or fold?
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November 13, 2012 - 2:41 pm
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Hand#3144C2385F001611 – $1,250 GTD R&A T12

728415 — TICKETCASH — $3 + $0.3 — 9 Max — Table 11 — 800/4000/8000 NL Hold’em — 2012/11/12 – 21:50:56
Dealer: Seat 1
Seat 1: ladymacbet (76,994 in chips)
Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff (140,510 in chips)
Seat 3: hilldog56 (78,593 in chips)
Seat 4: ollieB4 (79,270 in chips)
Seat 5: Black Math (133,862 in chips)
Seat 7: bostttt (92,903 in chips)
Seat 8: RussellScott (318,332 in chips)
Seat 10: Anchower22 (49,036 in chips)
ladymacbet: posts ante of 800
BeanzMcGriff: posts ante of 800
hilldog56: posts ante of 800
ollieB4: posts ante of 800
Black Math: posts ante of 800
bostttt: posts ante of 800
RussellScott: posts ante of 800
Anchower22: posts ante of 800
BeanzMcGriff: posts small blind 4,000
hilldog56: posts big blind 8,000
Dealt to bostttt [Qc,Jc]

 

If this weren’t the final table or close to any kind of bubble, it looks like an easy shove but with 4 stacks being shorter(1 stack with 6bbs) than I am and it being the FT, is this a fold from UTG+2?

 

I ran it into Nash not changing the pay structure which showed I should be shoving 19.2% of my range here which obviously QJs is in that range but thats without affected payjumps.

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November 13, 2012 - 10:04 pm
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Sigh, ya just let'r rip here. Jam>fold

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Yah without havin my push/fold chart in from of me I’m gonna go ahead and say shoving Is fine. You Stan to increase your stack by 20ish percent and I think given the dynamics you will have a few players who will be tight and not want to get it in. In the chance that someone wakes up with a big hand we play well against it. We have blockers fOr QQ, JJ and are only really dead against AA KK.

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Jam is better than folding

I think i would shove something like 22+,A8s,AT+,K9s,KJ+,QTs+,QJ,J9s+,T8s+,98s+  

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xbornx said:

Jam is better than folding

I think i would shove something like 22+,A8s,AT+,K9s,KJ+,QTs+,QJ,J9s+,T8s+,98s+  

Agree that folding would be a mistake.

I think a more appropriate shoving range here would look like
44+ A3-A5s A9o KT Q9s QTo J9s and like maybe JTo (JT is close i think)

Also, I assume that min opens w/TT+ AQ+ are still going to be optimal here. Something to consider

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