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Good AQo fold? Scoop 27$1R1A mid stage

p1kZoR

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May 24, 2013 - 4:06 pm

Hello again,

ive got a SCOOP L event here with 27$1R1A on Stars

I was pretty active with raising, showing good laydowns, but as same as 4bet bluffs.

The player on BU was the only guy who called few times vs me, and i think he 3bet me just once so far. His 3bet range shouldnt be that loose, even he is on BB. SB stack was a tight one, never 3bet so far. 400ppl left to bubble (out of 8400)

BU stats:21(VP$IP)/14(PFR)/8.2(3bet) based on 175 hands at my table

BB stats: I dont know them anymore exactly, since he's been removed from table, but it was something like: 12/5/1.3 based on about 70 hands

My stats: 25/22/3 (rarely folding to 3bets)

Poker Stars $24.55+$2.45 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t400/t800 Blinds + t100 – 9 players – View hand 2219069
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

kepik777 (UTG+1): BB = 26.0, t20817
Hero (UTG+2): BB = 45.7, t36586
silna_rakia (MP1): BB = 33.2, t26522
HYBRID400 (MP2): BB = 84.8, t67855
vuhoangdien (CO): BB = 70.4, t56288
theczar19 (BTN): BB = 45.5, t36413
daimonde (SB): BB = 25.4, t20329
pelmeen0 (BB): BB = 25.2, t20176
Dr Bjahn (UTG): BB = 45.9, t36719

Pre Flop: (t2100) Hero is UTG+2 with Q of clubs A of diamonds
2 folds, Hero raises to t1704, 3 folds, theczar19 raises to t4000, daimonde raises to t20229 all in, 2 folds, theczar19 calls t16229

Flop: (t43862) J of diamonds 4 J of clubs (2 players – 1 is all in)

Turn: (t43862) Q of diamonds (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t43862) 9 of spades (2 players – 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t43862
theczar19 shows T of clubs T of hearts (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
daimonde shows 3 of spades 3 (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
theczar19 wins t43862

I think my fold was good here, but still not sure if this are the moments, where i miss the spots to get bigstacked

AND if my fold was fine here, what should i have done when BB folds and it gets to me again? 4bet&fold, calling OOP or just 4bet-shove? And if i call OOP, check&calling flop and getting it in on Turn? My stack was avrg at this time

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May 24, 2013 - 5:00 pm

theczar went all in before u acted? id fold but i t hink a lot of good gambling players wud get it in here and try n get big stack, two guys all in and its like 25bbs or something i dunno m8 i guess its not a bad fold but im not sure

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May 24, 2013 - 5:11 pm

happy u understand my problem 🙂 …Because i see alot of regs gambling here their avrg stack, to become deep. And i never get deep in big field tourneys not having absolute monsters with a healthy stack. Not sure if these are the spots to gamble for it..

oh and yes, ofc he went all in, before i folded… BB 3bet, he 4bet jam and than i folded

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May 24, 2013 - 5:14 pm

Snap fold after the cold 4b shove. Daimonde made a really loose cold 4b shove with 33. I would probably just call the 3b if it had folded back to you. It will be a bit hard to play, but he may try to rep boards that we hit. We can get a bunch of his chips calling down on Ax and Qx boards. Folding is also an option if you don't think he is light, but there is a decent chance with him being on the BU and the BB being so tight.

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May 24, 2013 - 5:35 pm

thanks, same thinking here..

just busted in the scoop with 2x avrg stack (55BB) on a damn ugly board.. 20BB opened UTG, i was BB with 66 and wanted to fold vs him, because i think its not worth playing for set value vs 20BBs…. but than BigStack called and i filled up. Flop: J67 rainbow. UTG cbet, bigstack 3bets, i called. Turn: Q, i check, he shoved 50BBs into 25BB pot. Is it possible to fold set of 6 here? i dont think so, just got unlucky and he had the only possible hand… 77 and a bigger set. Pretty upset right now, he jumped up to 4th place now out of 700

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May 24, 2013 - 5:59 pm

Stop showing your hands! Seriously, bad players will not care what hands you show, and good players will make better reads based on what you show. You are giving away information for no gain. Just stop. Set auto-muck and never look back!

As for the hand, I agree with llama, fold as played, call if SB folds.

Also, everyone involved, pleas RTFP (read the post). Danrose, no! czar was not allin before hero acted, read the hand history! p1, NO! czar was not allin before you acted. You played this hand, right?

Sorry if I'm coming off a little strong, but discussing this stuff is pretty useless if we just make up information.

p1kZoR

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May 24, 2013 - 7:05 pm

Generelly i automuck hands, but I dont think its so bad showing them “sometimes” …U seems to hate it, but its a personal thing i think. I show them on weaker players, which give a note on showing. Not to reg player

Or do u mean showing the hands when i convert and post them?

oh and yes, ofc he went all in, before i folded… BB 3bet, he 4bet jam and than i folded

Already tried to explain him, that he didnt read my 1st post well

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