I think the line looks pretty strong, assuming the villain isnt getting it in every time he 4bets then your flat looks strong. the flat with intention of c/r or c/c flop then betting firing on turn and river. i think you get called off with AA,KK, A2, 88,77. really dependant on history and whether villain thinks you are capable of making movings with complete air tho.

line looks stronger because you are out of position in my opinion

Agree with post above that 18k river bet feels stronger. I put you on KQs here. If this was a value bet WP.

bigdogpckt5s said:

JLUDEOBV said:

When villain checks back the flop in a 4 bet pot I don't think he has an overpair. He may have AA but I really don't think he would check that back in a 4 bet pot. I think you can eliminate 99-KK therefore his most likely holdings are AA, AK, AQ, or 88. Leaning towards AK or AQ. Based on that information I think your line looks pretty weak due to the pot sized bet on the river. It just really looks like you are trying to get him to fold. Not sure how competent villain is but he should know that your capable of making plays and flatting weird hands OOP with the intention of trying to outplay him. I feel like if you had the nuts here you would've value bet around 18k on the river. I probably hero call with A high here and scoop the pot… 🙂

Ok just to be clear here. You call for value here with ace hi for all these chips in this spot everytime right?

I think it’s strong purely because of how weak it looks. If that makes any sense. The check bet bet because he has checked behind will look weak especially because of the sizing of the river bet. I think personally. You called strong pre. Bet turn to build pot and when he calls your trying to max value on the river

This line is strong.

From watching his videos Casey does some unorthodox things sometimes that are pretty unique (i.e. awesome) to say the least.  Flatting a good sized 4-bet out of position, usually not one of them without a strong hand.

Casey wants to induce a cbet on the flop but the villian checks behind.  He knows with that board the guy is going to fire 90% of the time.  The turn lead is for value, he gets the call and then comes the river…

Now, Casey is TOTALLY capable of dusting here with air.  I've seen proof on video.  However, I think Casey wants a call here.  Villian is calling overpairs, obv 77 88 and Casey knows he has him crushed.

Now, show us the nuts!

I think it's good there are mixed feelings on whether bigdog's line is weak or strong… for the BI level that bigdog plays, I'm sure he is considered a reg by most players at that level and they are also aware he is capable of anything.  This is why I think yes this looks strong, which is why it's a perfect spot for him to also bluff 🙂 

haha, this is a fun one.  I'm leaning towards bluff here, but we'll see!

Thanks for the shoutout on the podcast! Obv I know bigdog is capable of making a huge value bet here with the nuts but given the action and the way the hand played out, I just think you have air here a decent amount of the time. Also I think the fact that we are on the bubble and you are the chipleader at the table makes this line look pretty weak as well. I think your thought process is that you can get him off his most likely holdings which are good aces based on the action. For what its worth, I really liked your line and you are getting a majority of people to fold in this spot. Unfortunately villain had himself labled as a fish, which is pretty funny. Based on that information I'm not sure I make that huge river bluff because we all know it is very difficult to get a fish off their hand.