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I open QQ and get jammed on
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Don't think the guy is ever shoving AA or KK here. I put him on tens or jacks or ak at best. Is this a no brainer?

 

Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t700/t1400 Blinds + t175 – 9 players

Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

Hexxer14 (MP1): BB = 11.2, t15709

chechebobos (MP2): BB = 33.8, t47373

paulinhos007 (CO): BB = 48.9, t68401

tonymark01 (BTN): BB = 12.8, t17930

JAYE SL (SB): BB = 31.9, t44676

SSSTOOOAAAK (BB): BB = 32.9, t46045

Pie-Eater68 (UTG): BB = 8.5, t11877

Pet37 (UTG+1): BB = 14.7, t20561

nita88 (UTG+2): BB = 39.9, t55851

Pre Flop: (t3675) chechebobos is MP2 with Q[Image Can Not Be Found] Q[Image Can Not Be Found]

4 folds, chechebobos raises to t3185, 2 folds, JAYE SL raises to t44501 all in, 1 fold, chechebobos calls t41316

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July 17, 2010 - 7:29 pm
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I tihnk your read is spot on.  I think he just puts in a standard 3 bet with AA or KK, so this is AK a ton and a couple smaller pairs the rest of the time.

 

I feel comfy getting it in here.

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Killingbird said:

I tihnk your read is spot on.  I think he just puts in a standard 3 bet with AA or KK, so this is AK a ton and a couple smaller pairs the rest of the time.

 

I feel comfy getting it in here.


 

I pretty much agree — his range is def leaning towards medium pocket pairs and AK.

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Thanks. He jammed k 9 hearts and got there. Sometimes I feel like folding these spots because I don’t want to flip for my tournament life. Guess you gotta play the odds though. I entered the hand into  …..xas-holdem to check odds and he is going to win there 1 out of three times. Seems kinda sick…

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July 17, 2010 - 11:18 pm
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sick but I wouldnt fold QQ there either

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one of my many leaks but i dont fold qq, kk or aa pre against one other player. stick with ur read and get it in 99.999999% of the time(depending on bubble and pay jumps of course).

 

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snap call…not folding QQ pre with 30BB…

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July 19, 2010 - 10:46 am
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I put villians range on AK, JJ+.  I don't think he pushes with AA or KK.  Maybe he even flats with AA KK but pushes AK

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this is a snippity snap call and you just have to keep in mind that in MTTs we're often pushing thin, marginal edges–meaning our opponents are going to win the particular hand a pretty decent amount of the time (in this specific hand your opponent, as you discovered, has a bit over 30% equity), but that over the long run you will be coming out on top.

 

That's not to say that this is a thin or marginal edge at all. We are absolutely crushing his range and often you're going to be getting it in with 80% equity.

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Hagbard Celine said:

this is a snippity snap call and you just have to keep in mind that in MTTs we're often pushing thin, marginal edges–meaning our opponents are going to win the particular hand a pretty decent amount of the time (in this specific hand your opponent, as you discovered, has a bit over 30% equity), but that over the long run you will be coming out on top.

 

That's not to say that this is a thin or marginal edge at all. We are absolutely crushing his range and often you're going to be getting it in with 80% equity.


 This. His range is basically 77-JJ, AQ, and AK. Such a fishy shove that I almost instantly assign AK to the villain in these spots and if he happened to just lose a big pot then his range is any two cards in the deck.

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July 23, 2010 - 12:15 pm
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100% get it in. your read is spot on. prolly had 88

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Killingbird said:

I feel comfy getting it in here.


This sums it up.  Sounds like a Phil Laakism, especially when Killingbird has the hoodie on in his photo.  But yes I am happy to get it in here.

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