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May 31, 2012
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PokerStars Hand #95597766348: Tournament #2013004012, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit – Level XIII (200/400) – 2013/03/15 20:22:57 WET [2013/03/15 16:22:57 ET]
Table '2013004012 2072' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: hiperspan (36126 in chips)
Seat 2: khogar (16519 in chips)
Seat 3: gismo2401 (9525 in chips)
Seat 4: ashj22 (14013 in chips)
Seat 5: thastryker27 (39869 in chips)
Seat 6: jippi89 (6030 in chips)
Seat 7: kitchenenco (29134 in chips)
Seat 8: kacko1979 (12160 in chips)
Seat 9: Dimon Wolkow (1110 in chips)
hiperspan: posts the ante 80
khogar: posts the ante 80
gismo2401: posts the ante 80
ashj22: posts the ante 80
thastryker27: posts the ante 80
jippi89: posts the ante 80
kitchenenco: posts the ante 80
kacko1979: posts the ante 80
Dimon Wolkow: posts the ante 80
ashj22: posts small blind 200
thastryker27: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ashj22 [6d 7d]
jippi89: folds
kitchenenco: folds
kacko1979: folds
Dimon Wolkow: folds
hiperspan: raises 800 to 1200
khogar: calls 1200
gismo2401: calls 1200
ashj22: calls 1000
thastryker27: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 5d 2c]
ashj22: checks
hiperspan: bets 800
khogar: raises 1558 to 2358
gismo2401: folds
ashj22: raises 10375 to 12733 and is all-in
hiperspan: folds
khogar: calls 10375
*** TURN *** [8d 5d 2c] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [8d 5d 2c 2h] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ashj22: shows [6d 7d] (a pair of Deuces)
khogar: shows [5c 5s] (a full house, Fives full of Deuces)
khogar collected 32186 from pot
ashj22 finished the tournament in 9914th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 32186 | Rake 0
Board [8d 5d 2c 2h As]
Seat 1: hiperspan folded on the Flop
Seat 2: khogar showed [5c 5s] and won (32186) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces
Seat 3: gismo2401 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: ashj22 (small blind) showed [6d 7d] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 5: thastryker27 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: jippi89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kitchenenco folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kacko1979 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dimon Wolkow folded before Flop (didn't bet)
March 8, 2013
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I like folding pre here.
I like checking, plan to raise if it's just one guy, but probably not when it's two.
Any reads on these guys?
hiperspan might be cbetting with air here into a way 4 pot, but I think he often gives up unless he has a flush draw, overpair, or set. I'd probably put khogar on definitely draw, overpair, or set. You are behind any flush draw or set, but ahead of overpair. There's about 5500 in the pot after pre-flop action, so if you and hiperspan both call, that makes about 12500. I would probably flat here, assuming that your 6 non-diamond straight outs are golden and the 9 diamond outs are good a decent amount of the time. Folding doesn't seem terrible either. Shoving seems really bad, as I doubt these guys are folding better flush draws or sets ever, and might just fold 99-QQ, which you want to stay in the hand.
May 31, 2012
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ok first off i thought about folding pre but when there was a raise and 2 more flat calls i thought this is the exact spot you want with suited connectors other than i didnt have position, i was getting 5 to 1 on the call pre flop on flop pot was 5920 and after tiny c bet and raise made the pot 9078 so my thinking was the pot is 9078 i have 12k behind and an up and down straight flush draw so it seemed like a shove to me.the plan was check shove the flop reasons being i check everyone else may check and i get a free card or i check someone bets and i shove, after i shove even if the bettor on the flop folds once or twice this is hugely ev+ and when i do get called i got a ton of outs.
maybe worth saying it was a big antes mtt. also i stoved my hand v this range 88-jj,55,22,AdTd,KdQd,QdJd and i have 48.28% against that range. i felt QQ,KK,AA would 3 bet pre flop and even if they are in his range im doing even better i am 50.59% with QQ,KK,AA in his range aswell.
March 8, 2013
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That's a fine range to put them on, but what if they are folding their over pairs when you 3 bet? Suddenly you are getting it all in when you are behind, but only winning what is in the pot when you are ahead. Given the multi-way nature of this pot, I think most people could lay down at least 99 and TT, maybe not JJ.
May 31, 2012
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even if his range is only sets 88,55,22 im still 42.12% against that range, and look at all that dead money in the middle.
February 1, 2013
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standard chk/jam to me.
very unlikely that early in a $3 comp that overpairs are folding here and even muppets with AK will call as they think they are AA.
imo you did nothing wrong…. call pre standard with your stack and the action…. chk/jam flop standard… he has a set and you brick…. well that's standard for me!!! UL dude…
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March 8, 2013
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Good point, I missed how much dead money there is, you are definitely getting it in fine even when you're behind.
would have loved to see an aggro 3bet here, but as played i think you have to play it as a check/shove. we're much happier if its just hiperspan or one other bettor but i still dont think id fold if i was in this spot. making it like 3500-4k would prob win this a bunch of the time in a low buy in tournament.
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