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June 2, 2013
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Hey TPE!
Played this hand, I am trying to defend more this last days, but I think this is too much now… what do you think?
Also the post flop line?
SB is a decent player, with high steal for what I have noticed before, I had more tables at the time.
IPoker, $9.10 Buy-in (1,500/3,000 blinds, 430 ante) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 8 Players
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SB: 71,045 (23.7 bb)
Hero (BB): 69,370 (23.1 bb)
UTG+2: 44,389 (14.8 bb)
MP1: 57,991 (19.3 bb)
MP2: 62,777 (20.9 bb)
MP3: 75,496 (25.2 bb)
CO: 65,941 (22 bb)
BTN: 34,315 (11.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 4
Q
6 folds, SB raises to 6,500, Hero calls 3,500
Flop: (16,440) 5 6 3
(2 players)
SB bets 9,000, Hero calls 9,000
Turn: (34,440) J (2 players)
SB bets 18,000, Hero raises to 53,440 and is all-in??
SB calls 35,440
River: (141,320) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results: 141,320 pot
Final Board: 5 6 3 J T
SB showed A 7 and won 141,320 (71,950 net)
Hero mucked 4 Q and lost (-69,370 net)
July 7, 2012
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B v B i don’t think this bad at all, especially to just over a min raise. The only thing I might have done different is raise the flop instead of the turn, you then have control of the pot if he just calls on the the flop and a turn jam might work.
June 2, 2013
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Turbulence said
B v B i don’t think this bad at all, especially to just over a min raise. The only thing I might have done different is raise the flop instead of the turn, you then have control of the pot if he just calls on the the flop and a turn jam might work.
I didn´t reraise the flop because i didn´t want to narrow his range, also I assume I had FE OTT, either floating or reraise all in like I did… maybe I am wrong most of the time on this spot.
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April 6, 2010
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I dig the defend here. I started defending in these spots SUPER wide, but found myself losing too often, so narrowed it a bit. But I think this would still be in my defending range.
February 20, 2015
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I’d add that more important than your range is how well you play post-flop. I think you’ve progressed enough that it makes sense to start taking more spots, such as how you did in this hand.
If SB has a high steal percentage, did you consider 3-betting in position to about 12K? You’re ahead of his range if he is stealing a lot.
June 2, 2013
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joelshitshow said
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If SB has a high steal percentage, did you consider 3-betting in position to about 12K? You’re ahead of his range if he is stealing a lot.
I should be ahead of his range, but 3betting make me feel uncorfortable actually, stack size wont give me maneuver to cbet IP when i dont hit, and I can get 4bet all in by a range like suitted conectors or pocket pairs that I can outplay post flop, I also narrow his range, not sure I like the 3bet, I don´t know how that player will react, and I will get lost on V´s range. I guess I will have to make some work on this.
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December 6, 2012
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I like the call. As others have pointed out, you should rarely fold when you are in position against a wide range getting such good odds. The problem with 3-betting is that it risks a lot relative to calling, opens you up to a 4-bet, and denies you your positional advantage. If you start 3-betting every single time you have an ugly hand in this spot, you will probably end up extremely exploitable to a 4-bet.
Post-flop, I like your line for the reasons you gave. Whether to call or raise the flop mostly has to do with how often you think Villain will double-barrel bluff (because that will be most if not all of his bet-fold range on the turn). I don’t think “take control of the betting” is a strategically meaningful concept.
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