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JJ multi way 3b pot
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July 27, 2010 - 2:09 pm
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naked is 19/19 over 21 hands, he doubled a few hands ago when he reshipped AQs

blackdrathar is 26/18 / 7.1 3b over 87 hands

Ive been tight 13/10, I doubled when utg opened and I shipped 14bbs with QQ on BTN

 

What can you put these guys on here? What do you do on flop and turn? What is your plan now?

 

Full Tilt Poker $19,500 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players

Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

imhale (CO): BB = 30.8, t6168
bigedmambo (BTN): BB = 7.7, t1530
kalterrell (SB): BB = 8.5, t1695
blackdrathar (BB): BB = 32.9, t6582
chipit7 (UTG): BB = 16.3, t3260
Fonzayy33 (UTG+1): BB = 14.9, t2975
slash_no1 (UTG+2): BB = 38.8, t7760
nakedTILT (MP1): BB = 33.8, t6760
guitey (MP2): BB = 30.3, t6050

Pre Flop: (t300) guitey is MP2 with J of clubs J of spades
3 folds, nakedTILT raises to t600, guitey raises to t1825, 1 fold, bigedmambo calls t1530 all in, 1 fold, blackdrathar calls t1625, nakedTILT calls t1225

Flop: (t7105) 7 of spades K of spades 2 of diamonds (4 players – 1 is all in)
blackdrathar checks, nakedTILT checks, guitey checks

Turn: (t7105) 3 of spades (4 players – 1 is all in)
blackdrathar checks, nakedTILT checks, guitey checks

River: (t7105) 8 of hearts (4 players – 1 is all in)
blackdrathar bets t4757 all in, nakedTILT folds, guitey ???

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July 27, 2010 - 2:50 pm
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Gross.. Talk about handcuffed

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July 27, 2010 - 3:10 pm
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I would of bet the flop and found out more about my opponents hands. Looks like Black turned the flush.

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July 27, 2010 - 3:11 pm
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I usually just jam JJ pre here because you come across this spot way too often.  There is 900 in the pot against a range you're doing fine against.

 

As played i'd just jam the flop since all you have left is less than pot sized bet.  Can't really be raising pre with a hand like JJ if you aren't willing to get it in post.

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July 27, 2010 - 3:29 pm
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i would of pushed pre flop for sure. i dont want to give the original raiser a chance to flat and to see aflop that i hate when that king peels the flop you are basically guessing and you are for sure crushing his range pre. the 3 bet also alowed players behind get in and see the flop, this you dont want withh JJ. so ship that in pre and iso the situation.

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July 27, 2010 - 3:33 pm
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I mean I cant bet flop without jamming so its jam or check. Against one guy I would jam, I was setting up the 3b so I had ~PSB left to jam on flops like this but when there is 2 other active players and one guy all in already I really didn't know what to do, the guy in SB 'should' have a strong range here and I wouldn't think he is folding to a flop jam, altho players are bad so you cant rule it out.

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Also, I hate just shipping this pre for 30bbs pre antes. I would rather get called and they c/f flop or let them ship 99 pre or w/e. but would like to hear why you guys thinking shipping is best.

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His range is wide enough that  folds enough where you scoop 900 for free which makes it  +EV even without antes.  Putting in 1800 and not capturing any equity post by just folding is the worst option.  Gotta at least shove the flop to capture your equity no matter what the flop is and how many are in with you.

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