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JJ vs 47bb cold jam spot in 109$ thursday Thrill
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January 13, 2018 - 11:01 am
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Dear fellow TPE members, 

Following hand happened in the 109$ mini Thursday Thrill on stars. I had no history with Villain because we just moved tables. The only information I had was that he just played two tournaments on stars previously. 

 
Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37928969

MP2: 14,622 (36.6 bb)
MP3: 28,161 (70.4 bb)
CO: 53,573 (133.9 bb)
BTN: 34,718 (86.8 bb)
Hero (SB): 26,056 (65.1 bb)
BB: 18,489 (46.2 bb)
UTG+1: 22,702 (56.8 bb)
UTG+2: 8,445 (21.1 bb)
MP1: 36,141 (90.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
5 folds, CO raises to 1,000, BTN calls 1,000, Hero raises to 4,225BB raises to 18,449 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls 14,224

Flop: (39,258) 8 4 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (39,258) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (39,258) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler: 
Results: 39,258 pot
Final Board: 8 4 2 4 9 
Hero showed J J and lost (-18,489 net)
BB showed K K and won 39,258 (20,769 net)
 
If we purely look at Cev, this is a call if Villain’s jamming range includes at least TT+ & AKs,AKo. If he is tighter than this, it is a fold. Do you think we could assume that versus a random player, he would push TT in this situation? 

The influence of TT being in his jamming range is this spot is huge. According to HRC, if TT is part of his jamming range, we have an easy and very profitable call for 4.35bb. However, if his jamming range is JJ+, AKs, AKo, it would be a terrible calling spot with -5.46bb. 

For the sake of analysis, let’s assume TT is not part of his jamming range. In this situation, do we call in this spot for the bounty in play?

I look forward to your responses, first of all, if you believe TT would be a jam from an unknown Villain, and 2nd, would you call if we knew TT wasn’t part of his jamming range because of the bounty?

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I think in a bounty this has to be a slam-dunk call. Villain is very unlikely to be jamming as tight as JJ+ AK+ even if they’re an unknown, since the bounty nature makes it more likely they would assume you’d be 3-betting and calling a bit lighter, but even if they were, it’s definitely going to be a call. More so if they have a bigger bounty on their head, since I think the Thrill is a progressive KO if I remember right.

So, in answer to your questions, I definitely think they’re jamming TT, but even if they weren’t, I still call for the bounty. They’d have to be folding AK for me to fold JJ here, and they’re obviously not. -5bb of cEV is very little compared to a 30-40% shot at a portion of $EV. Say you have a 30% shot at $50 in $EV – that’s $15. Does that extra 5bb of EV add $15 to your EV in the tournament? Doubt it.

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