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October 21, 2012
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[converted_hand][hand_history]Merge, $109 Buy-in (1,500/3,000 blinds, 300 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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CO: 78,421 (26.1 bb)
BTN: 33,148 (11 bb)
SB: 174,650 (58.2 bb)
BB: 44,660 (14.9 bb)
UTG+2: 95,648 (31.9 bb)
MP1: 17,070 (5.7 bb)
Hero (MP2): 48,961 (16.3 bb)
MP3: 120,783 (40.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q
Q
2 folds, Hero ?
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This is a common spot. I never know if I should raise to induce people to get in with weaker hands or shove and hope that they have something strong enough to call me. I guess is survival more important or do I take the extra risk in order to double up.
I think this depends on your table image. If you have open ripped a couple times before this spot I think you want to continue with that theme and ship your entire range. Having said that, if you use a HUD you can also see what the Big Blinds VPIP is (him defending). If that is over 50% and he isn't a reg, I prefer min raise as he is flatting enough to where we want to encourage him to be in the pot.
For the most part, if i ran this situation readless and HUDless, i personally would be shoving 100% of the time as I am not normally min raise folding a 16bb stack. Based on that crucial fact, inducing becomes useless for me as my range would only consist of nutty hands and we aren't allowing our opponents the illusion of Fold Equity which is obviously key if we are trying to induce.
If we are shipping properly, it is important to balance our range by shipping the 910 suited type hands along with the qq and kks.
hope this helps,
Azn
May 30, 2012
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ship it unless you have been going to war with someone or have a spewy image if the table is any good, in later position it becomes a clear r/c but its hard for anyone to do anything other than nut our range when we raise from here. If this is a weak table i prefer r/c
another note is that i would be raising if either of the blinds are fish (generally fish love to see a flop and we have their range crushed and getting away from the odd horrible flop is worth risk in getting them to put chips in with **** all equity).
In game i probably r/c just to get the button and bb to punt there stacks a bit wider, or for someone to flat and them to shove over the top with a widish range.
November 19, 2012
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Since i'm typically r/f this short I think this is usually a clear r/c for me. When considering what to do think about the tendancies of your table, and you think they are likely to call this off light it could be a jam.
August 8, 2012
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If what AZN is true that your range for raising this stack size is nutty, then can't we mix in more non-nutty hands where we have to fold to 3bets? If there are players on the table that have seen you raise/fold a 16BB stack then this makes this a fantastic raise/call spot. What most have said in this spot is about your image at the table. If you're shoving a lot with 16BBs then carry on shoving since a raise looks so strong. If you've been raise/folding then raise/call. If, as others have said, there are weaker players behind then raise/call.
I just dont min raise fold a 16bb stackso I cannot answer this ? properly. Say we had 20 bbs and we are min raise folding(as we should?),we now can mix in nuts and bluffs which works wonders deep in mtts.
June 11, 2012
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i am raise/folding 16BB from LP most of the time. so i am raise/calling here all day long compared to shoving
October 21, 2012
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marc, I like your take on this hand I have been shoving more with a wider range under 20bb and sometime up to 25bb if I think they will call me light because of my image. this prevents a lot of post flop play and allows me to play more tables kinda like back in the SNG days.
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