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Odd spot with 5 left in $4:50 180 man sit and go.
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August 5, 2017 - 6:35 am
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Some context, I am chip leader with 5 left at this FT with $220 for first, and $45 for 5th with payouts climbing steeply from 3rd to 1st. Since gaining the chiplead I have been chipping up nicely, with a couple of weak spots at the table including the main villain in this hand. 

PokerStars Hand #173930720170: Tournament #1988417407, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level XV (1000/2000) – 2017/08/05 1:07:53 WET [2017/08/04 20:07:53 ET]
Table ‘1988417407 11’ 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: mikolajm2222 (69820 in chips)
Seat 2: Roberto#1do (35904 in chips)
Seat 4: amerv31 (34374 in chips)
Seat 6: ScotLib (79028 in chips)
Seat 7: JustaJob420 (50874 in chips)
mikolajm2222: posts the ante 200
Roberto#1do: posts the ante 200
amerv31: posts the ante 200
ScotLib: posts the ante 200
JustaJob420: posts the ante 200
amerv31: posts small blind 1000
ScotLib: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScotLib [8s Qs]
JustaJob420: folds
mikolajm2222: raises 2000 to 4000
Roberto#1do: calls 4000
amerv31: folds
ScotLib: calls 2000
*** FLOP *** [2s 6s 7s]
ScotLib: checks
mikolajm2222: bets 4000
Roberto#1do: raises 6000 to 10000
ScotLib: calls 10000
mikolajm2222: calls 6000
*** TURN *** [2s 6s 7s] [9s]
ScotLib: checks
mikolajm2222: bets 10000
Roberto#1do: folds
ScotLib: calls 10000
*** RIVER *** [2s 6s 7s 9s] [Td]
ScotLib: checks
mikolajm2222: bets 45620 and is all-in
ScotLib: calls 45620

*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikolajm2222: shows [Th As] (a flush, Ace high)
ScotLib: shows [8s Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
mikolajm2222 collected 155240 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 155240 | Rake 0
Board [2s 6s 7s 9s Td]
Seat 1: mikolajm2222 showed [Th As] and won (155240) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: Roberto#1do (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: amerv31 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ScotLib (big blind) showed [8s Qs] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 7: JustaJob420 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

Pre I don’t think there’s any cause to do anything else with a suited hand and good pot odds and a weak player in the hand. 

On the flop I think my decision is pretty flawed, I was influenced by the fact that miko had regularly bet flop and turn big with air, but after the 3rd player in the hand re-raises I think I should re-raise, as even flat calling does little to disguise the strength of my hand, and let’s anyone with the As see a turn for the correct price. 

Once I’ve taken the line I have I think I have to call turn with the combined equity of the Q high flush and the open ended straight flush draw giving me a couple outs. 

River I’m pretty sure is atrocious, at this point in the hand I really struggle to see anything he’s shoving for value on this board that I beat, and I think I let my read of him as a weak player sway me into making far to loose a call. 

What’s everyone’s thoughts? 

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Nasty one, I think as played I am folding river, without reads, not sure this player will value bet two pair or str8s otr… long time I dont play this game. I don´t think this regular V will bluff like this. But you have to call ~45k into ~67k pot, if you have read that V is capable of bluff is a good bluff catcher. Small flush may check IP tow, for showdown value.

Trying to visualize what my target will be here, I think overcard and overpair with flush draw. Your 8s blocks smaller suited conectors that would flop flush too, so i am not sure on this for a target.

I would reraise flop all in, the BTN guy leaves about 10bb on his stack when he does that, and as you said “miko had regularly bet flop and turn big with air”, I don´t think he will bet turn, as a bluff, with the player otb having 10bb.

I like your check call line better if btn folded, and you were heads up with miko.

Sometimes I dbet 1bb otr on spots like this, they will think is a really weird thing to do, if V shove way too fast I am more inclined to fold.

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I think I like your line. ICM dictates it’s pretty tough for you to bluff-catch wider here, villain has to be bluffing way more often than cEV would usually dictate.

I also like jam flop as well, incidentally. I do think you get stacks in against Roberto fairly often.

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I prefer shipping it in on the flop but calling is a decent line to take, especially if you expect villains will barrel naked Aspade on the turn. Although shoving over the check-raise looks really strong, I think we are getting called by enough sets, 67s, and pairs w/ a big spade, and Roberto may feel pot committed with weaker hands.

It’s horribly wrong vs properly balanced villains, but I think we can consider exploitatively folding turn here, as crazy as that sounds. Hard for villain to bet anything other than Aspade into 2 players that have shown so much interest in a monotone flop. 2 outs to the immortal nuts is nice but hardly enough to justify a call if villain’s range is as nutted as I suspect. Given sizing I think we can peel, but its probably closer than it seems.

River I think we need to be folding (but I hardly think the call is ‘atrocious’). If the pot had been heads up by the turn, I think villain’s range might include enough bluffs to make it close, but I just don’t see enough people bluffing 4-flush boards multi-way to like our chances.

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theginger45 said
I think I like your line. ICM dictates it’s pretty tough for you to bluff-catch wider here, villain has to be bluffing way more often than cEV would usually dictate.

I also like jam flop as well, incidentally. I do think you get stacks in against Roberto fairly often.  

I just realized you called river and not folded, haha. I definitely don’t like all of your line, in that case.

I also agree with DDD that there’s a case for folding turn. Many villains will have very little in their call flop-bet turn range that doesn’t include the Ks or As.

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