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OOP bluffing spot
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December 18, 2019 - 3:54 pm
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hi TPE!

This is my first strategy post after I watched many videos by Andrew Brokos.
Now I try to apply this new knowledge in game.

So lets begin with the hand:

(22$ online MTT)

Hero CO 34bb, open 2.2bb w/ JdiamondTclub
Button 75bb, flats.

  • Flop:  AspadeKclub8heart (~7bb)
    Hero CBet 4bb, BU calls
  • Turn:  9club(15bb)
    Hero (28bb) bets 10bb, BU calls
  • River: 5club (35bb)
    Hero (18bb) ???

clubFlop:
Hand category: We have AIR/Draw (gut shot).
How good is this spot to bluff?  (0-5 scale) 2/3 ? We are OOP but the board is good for our range, and we dont have many draws (only GS, bd Draws).
Sizing:  we are CBetting polar (strong Ax+, and some draws) range so bigger size is ok ( ~60% pot size). I guess when we have nut advantage and our draws have little equity we can go even bigger here?

clubTurn: 
We pick up more equity, so we bet again. The pot is 15bb, we have 28bb left.
I decide to bet 10bb but I think its too big of a size. After that bet we will have 50% pot size bet left. It will be harder for Villain to fold blank river vs 50% bet than like 60-100% bet.

Now I think I should bet 7.5bb on the turn and left with ~66% river jam.

* (any strategy rule of thumb when to leave smaller river jam like 50%, vs bigger one like 66-100% ?).

clubRiver: 
Is this good bluff opportunity? again 2/3 (on 0-5 scale)
I miss my draw and I have J-high so 0 SDvalue (I dont have many if any worse hands, even 76 gets there).
I block Villains calling range (AJ, AT, bdFD with Tclub QTcc T8cc AXcc).

For my bluffs I think I would bet turn with all JT/QT/QJ (or I should pass those naked gut-shots QJ/QT wo/FD ?) and on flush river I will bluff those with a club (but this still may be too many combos).

Love to hear what you guys (and Andrew Brokos ofc 🙂 ) think about that spot and my thought process.

 

Peace

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December 19, 2019 - 7:39 am
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Hi! Glad you found my videos helpful cool. I think you’re doing a pretty good job of applying the relevant concepts here. A lot of the feedback I’m going to give you here is actually a bit beyond the scope of the videos.

You say AK8r is good for your range, but I’m not sure that’s true. At this stack depth (SPR 4), it doesn’t much matter that you have AA/KK/AK and Villain doesn’t, because you aren’t deep enough to muscle him off of one-pair hands. I’d expect equities to run pretty close if his pre-flop range isn’t too loose, though in a $22 MTT it very well may be. But he should have plenty of Ax and Kx in his range.

You probably should have a high checking frequency in this spot. Because you don’t have a range advantage, it’s a static board, and even your nutty hands don’t absolutely need three bets to get all the money in, there aren’t really hands with a strong preference for betting. That said, this is a reasonable candidate for betting.

You’re right that barreling 32 combos of gutters on the turn is going to be too much, especially as your bet size wont’ be that large. This is part of why you should check some of them on the flop.

I agree with you re: turn sizing. Because the board is so static, your strongest hands can plan to split the betting across three streets; they don’t need to focus on getting the money in before river. Consequently, your bluffs can do the same, for extra leverage. I do think this is a good candidate for barreling off, for the reasons you gave.

 

Hope that helps!

Andrew

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December 19, 2019 - 10:10 am
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Thanks for answering Andrew! 

One thing I can add is that I try to check this hand in PIO (which covers in most cases what you said).

So indeed PIO like bigger CB sizing OOP.
Observations:
– it slowplay (protect out wider range. OOP range is ~33%, IP ~18% and EQ for OOP is 51%) with more strong hands 88/KK/AA some AK (I guess its because we are 30bb deep so no need to have that strong hand to barell for value. Also AA/KK/AK blocks hands we target).
– for bluffs it use those GS: QJ/QT/JT and bdDraws wrap around 8 (J9s 97s 76s) but also weak 8Xs hands ( I guess its too weak to play as XC and we treat it as a 5 outs bluffs) which I dont recognize in game.

– on the turn:
PIO prefer bigger 66% size (44% of the time), 1/2psb (16% of the time).
We are betting AT+ for value (I guess cos we lack of strong hands like sets).
We bluff JT (QT/QJ mostly checking cos we have stronger draws JT, FD and QJ/QT blocks fold from KQ KJ KT), some FDs, and again it bluff with 8x, 9x hands.

– River:
We jam AJ+ (Villain preflop strongest Ax is AJ, btw) and for bluffs we pick those 9x/8x 2pair blockers and give up with JT mostly and bluffing 20% if we have club ( we block folding range with them ? Like JT/KT/KJ).

Looks like it prefer to jam for thin value with AJ+ (block value hands like 2 pair, can be called by worse and we can Xback it like if we would be IP) and not bluffing with J-high that much:)

Btw, how wide you will jam river “4 value” on that runnout? 

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December 19, 2019 - 10:41 pm
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Hello. I just wanted to let you know that this I cover this hand in the next TPE podcast, due out soon.

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December 20, 2019 - 8:35 am
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That’s cool, I can’t wait for it 😉

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