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Maniackid11
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March 11, 2019 - 2:33 pm
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WPN, 30/60 blinds No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 1,915 (31.9 bb)
BB: 1,535 (25.6 bb)
UTG+2: 1,500 (25 bb)
Hero (MP1): 1,625 (27.1 bb)
MP2: 2,860 (47.7 bb)
MP3: 1,500 (25 bb)
CO: 1,470 (24.5 bb)
BTN: 1,350 (22.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8 8
UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to 180, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to 300, 4 folds, Hero calls 120

Flop: (690) 5 6 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 518, Hero calls 518

Turn: (1,726) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets 807 and is all-in, MP3 calls 682 and is all-in

River: (3,090) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

3,090 pot
Final Board: 5 6 Q 7 5
Hero showed 8 8 and lost (-1,500 net)
MP3 showed K Q and won 3,090 (1,590 net)

I kinda feel pretty good about the way I played this hand. I think when we open here and get 3-bet, our hand is to strong to fold but I think we aren’t deep enough to 4-bet unless we are going to shove. I guess we could have shoved hoping to get called by hands exactly as the villain has.

I think we can call the flop bet. Although, looking at it now, maybe that was a mistake given the flop bet sizing. But if he has AK here, I think he’s c-betting also. My turn shove was basically this: I don’t think villain is ever folding and neither are we. I think we have to much equity to just check/fold. So I decided to just get it in first. What do you guys think about the way I played this? Do you think calling the near pot-sized flop bet was a mistake? What are your thoughts?

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The flop is a good spot for an equity calculator. Think about V’s 3-betting range and look at how your hand stacks up against it, if he just bets all of it on this flop, then look at how you’re doing against a more conservative c-betting range. Also consider that you dont’ go to showdown just by calling the flop bet. You’re going to have to play the turn and/or river, and it’s going to be hard to make +EV decisions on those streets.

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Foucault said
The flop is a good spot for an equity calculator. Think about V’s 3-betting range and look at how your hand stacks up against it, if he just bets all of it on this flop, then look at how you’re doing against a more conservative c-betting range. Also consider that you dont’ go to showdown just by calling the flop bet. You’re going to have to play the turn and/or river, and it’s going to be hard to make +EV decisions on those streets.  

Yeah I did look at that after I posted this. I was pretty confident at first that this was played ok. But afterwords I realized with his flop bet-sizing that I may have been mistaken. Which I was. I didn’t realize how little equity I really had. I think if he bet like 1/2 pot or less with a x% chance of checking back the turn I would have liked my flop call. I think the bet-sizing plus his 3-betting range is what makes this spot gross. I mean V should be pretty heavily weighted towards over pairs and top pairs with good kickers. So, yeah, mistake on my end.

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As played… why are you saying on turn you never fold? Your hand doesn’t looks great, you might be drawing dead against made flush, I was thinking about check/fold turn. 

Am I missing anything?

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nkarapet said
As played… why are you saying on turn you never fold? Your hand doesn’t looks great, you might be drawing dead against made flush, I was thinking about check/fold turn. 

Am I missing anything?  

You’re absolutely right. I think in retrospect, I thought my hand hand more equity than it actually did. I didn’t realize how thin my equity was here. I just need to work on these spots more off the tables.

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