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Shove spot pre ante in $75 KO
Lance Freeman
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July 8, 2010 - 1:30 pm
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This is the early $75 KO on ftp w/ like 116 left pre ante.. just thought it was too weak to fold in this spot with the stacks.  Most of my leaks are pre ante though and i think this may be one.. shove or fold?

Full Tilt Poker $17,500 KO Guarantee No Limit Hold’em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

Lance Freeman (BTN): BB = 18.2, t3630
AM6AJI (SB): BB = 31.4, t6275
gvader (BB): BB = 16.0, t3195
gnat777 (UTG): BB = 37.5, t7490
ekziter (UTG+1): BB = 41.1, t8215
CARman4 (UTG+2): BB = 27.3, t5460
SRVIN (MP1): BB = 53.9, t10770
Kyler XY (MP2): BB = 16.4, t3280
itbasilisk (CO): BB = 79.7, t15948

Pre Flop: (t300) Lance Freeman is BTN with K[Image Can Not Be Found] T[Image Can Not Be Found]
6 folds, Lance Freeman raises to t3630 all in, AM6AJI raises to t6275 all in, 1 fold

Flop: (t7460) T[Image Can Not Be Found] 7[Image Can Not Be Found] Q[Image Can Not Be Found]

Turn: (t7460) 6[Image Can Not Be Found]

River: (t7460) A[Image Can Not Be Found]

JDOG1645
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July 8, 2010 - 2:08 pm
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No reads on villian  I think the shove is fine.

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July 8, 2010 - 2:51 pm
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With no antes, i think the risk/value is not good enough to shoving. Unless the blinds go up really soon, I fold and wait for a better spot.

JDOG1645
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July 8, 2010 - 3:27 pm
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curious to hear some pros thoughts on this…its close

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July 8, 2010 - 4:21 pm
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With no antes in this is a minraise/fold or an open fold if you think you’re going to get shoved on a lot. With antes in I would shove.

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July 8, 2010 - 4:26 pm
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HITTHEPANDA said:

With no antes in this is a minraise/fold or an open fold if you think you’re going to get shoved on a lot. With antes in I would shove.


 

Yea this was my thoughts exactly but because of bb’s stack i didnt want to have to raise/call him so decided to shove and obv the way im running i run into a hand.. with antes i shove this for sure without thinking but ooooo well.

 

I swear im running worse than anyone alive right now, ive lost half my 13k br in the last month

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July 8, 2010 - 4:34 pm
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The PANDA has spoken….. so if 18BB is too much to shove in that spot when would you shove? Im certain 10BB you would but say 15?

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