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40/50 over 10 hands, seems to be pretty agg, 3bet so large as he doesnt seem to like to fold pre
Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t75/t150 Blinds – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
MP1: t1589 10.59 BBs
MP2: t5505 36.70 BBs
CO: t17213 114.75 BBs
Hero (BTN): t10546 70.31 BBs
SB: t5900 39.33 BBs
BB: t10670 71.13 BBs
UTG: t5682 37.88 BBs
UTG+1: t3878 25.85 BBs
Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BTN with A
K
4 folds, CO raises to t450, Hero raises to t1500, 2 folds, CO calls t1050
Flop: (t3225) 3
A 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets t1500, CO raises to t3300, Hero ??
The line I see is a Pocket Pair 99+. He is scared of the flush possibility, I think he would have flatted your bet and then take you on the turn or river to get more value out of his nut. I think you are still ahead of his range based on his line (I would take the completed flush out, see him do this with 99+, AJ+) that he is giving you. He doesn't want to fold and he doesn't want to give you a free card which suggests, he is taking this down with a pair but I think you have it beat (at the flop).
I am new to this….Love to see other results than this but this is my shot at it.
I wish there was more to the hand here. As played we need to flat this everytime and eval turn.
I feel like you might be 3betting big for the wrong reason. You say you are doing it because he doesnt like to fold, if you said you were doing it for value against a station than I would like it better. Problem is your sample size means nothing and the fact that he has played close to 50% of 10 hands might just be a stream of good cards for a little time period.
I hate bloating this pot so big with no antes even in play yet. You should either be flatting to disquise your hand, play in position, and get value on later streets……or 3betting smaller for value and play in position. I like flatting the best since it is pre ante and your can get lots of value post by disguising your hand and using your position.
I should have clarified, when i say i 3bet big because he doesnt like to fold, i meant i can get him to call with a wide range for value even with a larger bet size. I dont want villain to fold pre, but i think he will bet/call a shit ton
And that 2nd part is a valid point, how do you play the flop?
duggs said:
And that 2nd part is a valid point, how do you play the flop?
His play changes if you just flat pre imo, let him barrel. I would flat pre and then flat his cbet on the flop. Hopefully no heart on turn but even if it does come it doesnt mean he has to have one. Once you flat pre and flop, we will get a lot of info on the turn by his bet sizing or a check, thats when we decide how to proceed for the rest of the hand.
July 3, 2010
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The 3bet is way too big.
Also, flatting this raise on the flop is pretty bad. Not only is your range super narrow but we could be dead already. You’re going to get jammed on well over 50% on the Turn with zero idea where you stand in this hand since it’s a pot sized shove remaining if you flat the flop raise.
You're basically flatting and hoping that it gets checked down and that's almost never going to happen.
I don't mind the 3bet sizing (for all the reasons OP stated), and I shove over his flop bet and expect to get called by a single heart hand.
It is OK to 3bet huge against loose fish who will put in a ton of chips with a weak range.
July 3, 2010
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Would have to know postflop tendencies to comment more at this point. Tons of fish are call stations pre but then never raise post without really strong hands.
rivermen123 said:
I don't mind the 3bet sizing (for all the reasons OP stated), and I shove over his flop bet and expect to get called by a single heart hand.
It is OK to 3bet huge against loose fish who will put in a ton of chips with a weak range.
This was my thinking during the hand, I hated idea of calling and fold on a later street, and thought bet.folding flop was way to weak.
is is gross to 3bet shove this flop? Asumming he gets it in with combos of pair/fd, made flushes and single high heart hands Khx a Qhx and JJh? or is this assuming he gets it in way way wider than an unknown actually will? Is this ever air trying to push us off our hand?
thanks for the feedback
Shoving the ch/r is alot better than flatting for reasons FK stated. But given the action pre, I honestly think this is a fold. With these stack sizes, most pple would shove paired fl dr combos or strong single heart hands. His click-back seems alot stronger than a shove and I think we're facing a flush or a set.
Air? I guess once in a while but almost never.
Did you 3 bet big hoping to be called? Seems yes and I like it if so. If to get him to fold don’t like it.
I have not read other posts, but I’m probably getting it in on this flop. I think you are ahead of his range for sure and very likely dominate villain. Why do you think he raised small like this to 3300? KQhh? He’s just calling. Low flush isn’t fold oh well. The huge part of these guys range that don’t like to fold pre flop to 3 bets especially this big is 88-JJ – A9-AQ. Even if they have a worst kicker with a heart your still favored at winning ~54%.
vs. an underpair with 1 heart you are way ahead ~70% fav.
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