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January 8, 2014
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This is near the start of a €55, €10k Grt, 3k starting chips. 6max tables. Blinds 15/30, 12min lvl's.
My Chips: 2720
Sb Chips: 3240
I am Utg with J
J
: I raise to 70
Utg+1: folds
Co and Button: call
Sb (a solid winning player): Raises to 245.
I rr to 710 to thin the field.
All fold except for the Sb, who just calls.
FLOP:3
27
Sb: Checks
The pot is 1730, we have 2010 left
Did I play the flop ok?
Would you call a shove from a solid player here Pre Flop?
Next Move on the Flop?
Thx 
January 15, 2014
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I like your play and line of thinking. If the SB is a solid winning player like you say, he could be raising to 245 pretty light trying to steal the dead money, so I like your re-raise there. I would have made it slightly smaller though, maybe something like 625.
Once you play it like that pre-flop, you absolutely have to c-bet that flop. I think you give away too much value if you don't. I've been watching a lot of bigdog videos lately, and I think he would cruch anyone that 4-bets pre-flop and then doesn't c-bet that flop! Cheers.
June 24, 2012
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I don't like pre-flop line, you should just flat call sb 3bet. A solid player 3betting from the small blind to an UTG raise early in a tourney should have alarm bells ringing. JJs play bad against his range because he's prob not doing it with TTs or worse. I'd flat call preflop, proceed carefully and be prepared to fold to strong action.
January 15, 2014
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I disagree. I don't like flatting here. If you flat you are now playing the pot 4 way and out of position, and you really have no clue as to what the other players' hands are. I don't mind the re-raise pre-flop. I also advocate a smaller re-raise, so that the c-bet can be smaller too. I agree with proceeding carefully to strong action post flop for the reasons you stated above, but I definitely don't mind the re-raise. A re-raise doesn't mean I'm going crazy and losing my entire stack to him there.
January 15, 2014
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Maybe I'm a fish for thinking that way, but that's why I am on here to learn. If anyone else has opinions I'd like to hear them. Thanks.
January 8, 2014
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Thanks for the replys guys 
I think DaKid sounds about rite, with my experience of solid players early on, they don't seem to show up light in these type of hands.
I messed up in this hand big time, and shoved allin on the flop, thinking I would make him fold any draws, I thought if he was ahead here, he would have bet. Anyway he called with QQ and I was left looking silly… I think in the future against this player, I would just try to get to the river as cheap as possible, and hope he has the same idea…
Cheers
November 18, 2013
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You 4 bet to get heads up in position. I think a min/token 4bet can accomplish the same thing, 415-490. You can delay Cbet till turn and keep it small, 450-590.
January 8, 2014
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Thanks for the good advice, it is making sense 🙂
What I have taken from this is, 4bet smaller to thin the field when the others in the pot only have a small amount invested, and be prepared to fold if he shows more strength, as the best I am looking at then is a 50/50 against AK or a premium pair.
On the flop, I would have more chips (2210) and less in the pot (1330), so I could afford to bet maybe 500 and fold to any RR. I can't give a free card here, can I?
I'm pretty new to playing against this level of player, seems to be alot more checking, and waiting for me to bet when they have a premium hand.. I came seccond in this tourney the other week, I felt a little bit outplayed in that game too, just ran like God. Cheers….
November 18, 2013
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I don’t mind giving free card on flop. Sure there are AQ-AKs flush draws but that’s all we’re worried about. If we bet on turn he may fold these draws and only stay in with overpairs. If we bet flop check turn he is likely to value bet river. If we check flop bet turn he might check river allowing us to get to showdown.
July 12, 2013
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Super standard check by him. Especially w SPR just over 1… What can he accomplish by betting? He can only get you to fold worse hands. You 4b pre… He knows you should bet either flop or turn. Hes going to be able to get it all in every time… Having said that nice flat and check by him…
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